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Originally Posted by King Glorious
If you're going to say that about the Santa Anita Derby, which I'm not arguing was a great race, don't you then open up the discussion to the quality of what Epicenter was beating in Louisiana? It really wasn't much different.
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Yep; In the SA Derby, Taiba beat Messier who hasn't been closer than 20 lengths in subsequent starts; Forbidden Kingdom who has bombed in all subsequent starts; and 3 horses that have only been capable of winning a single allowance race in subsequent starts (Happy Jack, Armagnac, and Win the Day).
Epicenter, meanwhile, in his LA starts beat: Rich Strike (KY Derby), Cyberknife (AR Derby, Haskell), Pappacap (G1/G2 placed), Smile Happy (G1 placed), Zandon (Blue Grass), Tawny Port (Lexington, Ohio Derby), Slow Down Andy (Sunland Derby, DM Derby, multiple G1 placed), Rattle N Roll (American Derby, St Louis Derby, Oklahoma Derby).
In those races, Epicenter also defeated subsequent or recent allowance winners Zozos, Kupuna, Pioneer of Medina, and Galt, all of whom may progress into top horses in the older horse division this year.