[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by ultracapper

i understand what you are saying, and i would submit this for your thoughtful consideration. if we all looked in the mirror, and admitted our weaknesses, and accepted our strengths and the responsibilities that go along with strength, and each individual took responsibility for him/herself, there would be little need for democracy/socialism/theocracy or whatever. things would get done much, much slower, if at all (big government is really the only way to get things done like major road works, distribution of electricity, and such), but people would be more relaxed and content, less inclined to step on each other or impose on one another. the problem is, as soon as one person defers responsibility, both weak and strong, (which is a huge liberal tenent, "lets start a government program") then it all starts to break down.

I basically agree with that...therein lies my point that a basic philosophical/religious change needs to occur...not saying that any one religion has the answers (or doesn't) but certainly emphasis needs to shift within same to where folks first look to what is best for all instead of "self at any cost".