Out of every horse that has been mentioned only Mineshafter ran past the age of three, and he ran until he was a nice ripe age of four. No wonder why horses are so fragile these days. I think you might see the next stallion to make the bigest mark in horse racing is going to come from New York. Say Florida Sandy. He ran for seven yers 98 races 1-3 over 60% of the time. 41 times he had a speed number over 100. I had an opertunity to see jis baby's. His yearlings look like two year olds. They are all images of him, colts and fillies alike. Many of them foal at 145 and up. there was just one reported at 210lbs in Maryland. Do yourselves a favor and don't count him out b/c he is a NY bred.