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Originally Posted by bellsbendboy
With apologies to a few, this thread has disintegrated into remarkable prattle. The first rule of handicapping is to bet your own money, on your own selections. Rule two; take responsibility for those selections. There are no other rules.
The previous four pages of this thread are largely, collective confessions of novice handicappers who always bet the right horse. And if that horse loses; blame the jockey. Posts such as $50 to win, $50 place on a certain horse... ten minutes before the race, are ubiquitous and carry a dismal hit rate. Some cappers list 4 or 5 horses, for any given race, then take credit if any one of them wins! In the last few days some posters are fraudulenting claiming their horse won, when it ran up the track!!
Without apology or regret, I can relate to how hard a jockey has it. For twelve years I lived across the street from Churchill Downs. For the last eight of those years my roommate was an outrider. I have enormous respect, and a deep admiration for jockeys' work ethic, athleticism and courage. I call more than a few good friends.
In continuing my tirade, one post indicated the jocks in Louisiana, for the Delta Princess, were on the take, or lousy, because they set a fast pace. The poster did not consider that both were Grade One winning fillies and both were sent. Additionally that night, the first five races were won by widening wire to wire winners, with one exception who ran a very game second at a nice number. Wouldn't you love to see, your jockey, strangling your speed horse in a big money race???? Posting that a jock would "stiff" a horse in a $300K race highlights the prattle here in, and indicates the posters' incompetence.
In conclusion, in five decades of betting on horse races, a jockeys poor ride has beat me about five times. I asked, a few, really solid national cappers, the same question and their answer was about the same. I do not intend to come off as a know-it all, and have been "warned" that forum regulars are "intimidated" with my knowledge, I counter with all my bets are posted somewhere and my ROI would make a lottery winner wince. My strength is that, I realize, many handicappers know more than i do, and beat me like a drum every day, but I do not makre up excuses for my failures! Posting Friday, Good cappin, BBB
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Very loquacious. You most certainly have a fine grasp of the language arts.
I would only take limited minor exceptions with your comments. Perhaps you may indulge my noting them in reverse order of significance:
8. What knowledge is it that you have been "warned" about in terms of "intimidating" others?
7. You have a peculiar way of saying "We" and "Our" to describe your actions, wagers and thoughts. I recall -- and please do correct me if I've erred -- referring to your "inner circle."
6. You tease us like a tempting vixen with reference to your "posted elsewhere" ROI. Pray tell, where might some of us locate this most holiest of grails?
5. Why would anyone at the highest levels of handicapping ever discuss a bad ride? You and your "top tier national handicappers" must know rides even out and they are fruitless to discuss. 50 years of wagering and you still have not mastered this?
4. Outriders are not jockeys. This follows the same logic we all learned when taking those standardized tests; i.e., ALL SQUARES ARE RECTANGLES BUT NOT ALL RECTANGLES ARE SQUARES.
3. I took no offense to your comments and ask no apologies, especially with respect to your "Rule #1 ... Bet Your Own Money." Agreed. In return for my not taking any offense and requiring no apology, I'd like to take comfort in you doing the same when I tell you I would not wager on your offerings with stolen money.
2. You strike me as a man who -- for whatever reason -- is looking for a job or to make a sale. I actually admire that.
1. What in the world is a man such as you doing living for for 8 years with an outrider across from a race track???? Perhaps that takes us down a path that is best reserved for another session.
You can PM me with questions, comments, requests for assistance or cash challenge offers.