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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis
I wasn't actually comparing V.E. Day to Dortmund; I was point out that a Travers win will do the same for Dortmund as it did for him.
Dortmund's form is so fluffed up that it would embarrass anyone who actually would take a moment to delve into it.
Los Al Futurity – won a 3 horse photo against the aforementioned Firing Line (who would later outfinish him in the Derby) and the Indomitable Mr. Z. The fourth place horse would come back to win an overnight restricted stake, and is winless since. The Fifth place horse is still winless.
Robert B Lewis – Beat Firing Line by a head, the third place horse by 22 lengths, who is still, along with the rest of the field – winless.
San Vincente – Won by a length in a 10 horse field… Impressive. Except when you look at what he beat:
Prospect Park – 0 for 2 since
Bolo –1 for 3 since. just won an allowance N1X
Lord Nelson – 0 for 2 since
The Gompter - 0 for 2 since
Pain and Misery 1 for 3 since. Just took down the prestigious “Charles Taylor Derby” at Albuquerque.
Ocho Ocho Ocho - 0 for 2 since
Sir Samson – unraced since
Kenjisstorm – 1 for 2 since. The win? A maiden claiming 30K
So the field is 3 for 18 out of the San Vincente; those 3 wins coming by way of a mcl 30, a N1X, and of course the toast of Albuquerque
Santa Anita Derby- Beat 5 others, scoring in a hand ride by almost 5 lengths.
One Lucky Dane – unraced since
Bolo – See Above
Prospect Park – See Above
Cross the Line – 0 for 2 since, well beaten in a AOC affair last
Bad Read Sanchez – unraced since.
So nothing has come out of the Santa Anita Derby to win a race.
My opinion hasn't changed - This horse has been dressed up since Day 1 and hasn't beaten anything of note (save for Firing Line, who is a very nice horse, but not a champion by anyone's count) in his life.
A Travers win, however unlikely (as Nick pointed out), should do nothing to bolster his resume unless he plans to stand in Louisiana, California, or overseas.
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Mr Z is a nice horse Bolo, 888, Prospect Park all can be graded winners they all have talent. Firing Line is VERY GOOD. I think the Travers is a perfect spot for Dortmund. You avoid squaring off against AP and IF and its a big IF you win Mid summer Derby arguably the 2nd most prestigious colt race its a huge feather in his cap. You combine the SA Derby and Travers on a stallion resume and you have a full book of mares at a solid opening price point.
If you are Baffert and you have a big owner like Shah you certainly want to enter the Travers as no less then 4th most likely winner. Save AP who would be a dominate favorite in Travers? I think he is pretty good and I think IF he returns to his early form he will be a handful against any of what we have seen to date save AP