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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin
I partially agree with you and I partially disagree with you. Ther are times that a country or people may have an issue with us over policy. But other times, I think it has very little to do with policy.
For example, let's take the shoe-bomber. I think his name is Richard Reid. This guy was a simple criminal. He wasn't a Muslim. He wasn't even religious. He was just a criminal who kept getting arresting. He had no grievance against the US.
Anyway, while he was in jail just a few years ago, he converted to Islam. When he got out of jail, he was still bent on being a criminal and breaking the law. He joined a mosque and he ended up leaving because they weren't radical enough. They didn't encorage him to do anything bad. He didn't like that. He wanted a mosque that would encourage him to contiue his criminal behavior. Then he found a mosque that was radical where they encouraged him to be violent and go on jihad. They encouraged him to try to blow up an American plane. So the religion was just an excuse for him to continue his anti-social behavior. He had no grievance against the US. His attempt to try to blow up the plane had nothing to do with US policy. It was just a continuation of his criminal behavior.
In some ways, Bin Laden is a similar story. He may have had a legitimate grievance at one time, but that was against the Soviets. We helped him and the Afghans in their fight against the Soviets. They were victorious. The Soviets ended up leaving Afghanistan.
Do you think Bin Laden was going to retire after that? Of course not. He's a terrorist. He's going to find someone else to go after. So he decided he would go after us. He was mad at us(infidels) for being in Saudi Arabia. He thinks that foreign infidels should not be on the sacred ground of Saudi Arabia. But why should it be up to him? The Saudi government wants us there.
If you are a terrorist, you can always find a justification for attacking people. Just because a terrorist has a justification, it doesn't make it legitimate. Let's say that I don't like Korean people because I don't like them being on the sacred ground of the United States. So I go to South Korean and bomb some building. My justification is that I am mad at their country because I don't like Koreans being in my country(the US). If that happened, would you say that South Korea needs to look at their policy and that they are partly at fault for me bombing them? That is ridiculous.
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Rupert, interesting stuff and I'll get back to it- but I have to go to work (bleah) and then to "Evil Dead, the Musical" (yay!). I'll check in tomorrow. Hey, go watch my short film, would you, please, if you have the time? (Link on the esoteric board)
Just didn't want you to think I was blowing off your post.
