[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Your premise is so idiotic that I probably shouldnt bother responding.

Thanks for taking the time. We idiots (bettors) appreciate it when the Know-All's take a moment to remind us how in the dark we always are. It makes all that money we wa....errr.....wager.... seem so less important when some one "In the know" talks down to us.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

He didnt get caught using anything. His horses urine tested positive for a minute amount of an illicit drug that isnt used on animals but by drug addicts. There is basically no chance that he gave this to his horse on purpose. That you seem unable to understand difference is baffling.

Ummm... yeah he did. You can play a game of semantics all you'd like, but at the end of the day a horse in his charge, tested positive for a stimulant, principally methamphetamine - which can and does affect a horse in the same way it affects every other mammal that ingests it.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Not to mention that detection causes the positive test, not detection at levels that could affect performance. Simple detection. Of course most people screaming for blood won't bother noting that.

Ok - so by simply testing a sample for it, it makes it positive - yet you have no idea what the amount detected in the lab tests were. You are blindly assuming it's a borderline false-positive without any substantiation. Ok, again, I get it.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I feel badly for someone I barely even know because I am 99.9% sure that he had zero idea that meth was ever in that horse and his business is going to be destroyed, his reputation is being dragged through the mud and he will likely incur a huge amount of legal fees. From here on whenever he has a runner do well or has a streak of a few winners in a row the internet geniuses will be whispering "maybe he is using the meth again". It is a scarlet letter that he almost assuredly doesnt deserve.

You don't know him, but you're 99.9% he was railroaded. That is certainly open minded. But then so is this assertion that his test was a borderline positive that was triggered by the test itself, without, again, any substantiation.

You know who I feel badly for? The people that day in and day out keep the sport in business - even in the face of absurd takeout rates, jockeys that intractably put horses in inexplicable and untenable positions, stewards that regularly make a mockery of their responsibilities, and the ever present alchemists, who run up ticket costs by forcing inclusion based on whether they have their "program" working or not.

And then the best part of it all is having to endure the barrage of condescension from the "Insiders" as to how all of it is perfectly acceptable.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

What is scary is that I have trained about the same amount of years and have a pretty similar record in terms of lack of medication violations and this could happen to me just as easily.

I somehow highly doubt that.