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EpBurns 02-07-2007 12:37 PM

Former NBA center comes out in book
 
Former center John Amaechi admits to being gay in his soon to be released book " Man in the Middle" interesting thought I had was what was he in the middle of hahahaha

brianwspencer 02-07-2007 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by EpBurns
Former center John Amaechi admits to being gay in his soon to be released book " Man in the Middle" interesting thought I had was what was he in the middle of hahahaha

A power forward and a small forward, maybe? Or perhaps "the court" if it were tip-off time? Possibly, "the lane" were he trying to get through for an offensive rebound?

Total conjecture on my part.

brianwspencer 02-07-2007 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Bababooyee
You're not very good at double entendres, brian. :)

Ah my friend, but I am actually the master.

Antitrust32 02-07-2007 02:58 PM

The best one ever was when my friend told me (on the topic of sausage) that "I never liked italian sausage until I met Matt"

Matt is her husband and italian.. it was great!

brianwspencer 02-07-2007 03:25 PM

i'm glad he came out -- because there are more out there that we certainly don't know about but they don't say anything because of the macho nature of sports.

better late than never.

2 Dollar Bill 02-07-2007 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by EpBurns
Former center John Amaechi admits to being gay in his soon to be released book " Man in the Middle" interesting thought I had was what was he in the middle of hahahaha

Was he a BIG man....Opppps I mean a center,or forward ?

brianwspencer 02-07-2007 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by turdbucket67
the guy should of came out during the season, took the criticism and then he should of wrote a book talking about it a few years after his playing days... somebody is going to have to be the first one to take the criticism and receive all the negativity.. it happens with everything that is different

how bout the athletes that he played with? dont they have the right to know also? they shower together, the joke around with each other, they grab each others asses, and this whole time he decided to keep it a secret.. TB thinks its wrong to keep a secret like that to yourself when you might be hurting others as well

In response to the first bold section I've made in your post: No.

In response to the second bold section I've made in your post: That's ridiculous. Nobody gets "hurt" by having a closet homosexual in the locker room. The only time someone starts getting "hurt" is when everyone knows that the guy in the locker room is a homosexual....and I'll give you one guess who the person is that gets hurt by that.

brianwspencer 02-07-2007 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by turdbucket67
why come out now then? what good does it do now? well i guess he came out now bc he wrote a book and he's planning on making money off of it

Because they're baby steps. None of these guys feel comfortable enough to come out while they're playing a professional sport (understandable), which serves to perpetuate the myth that only heterosexuals play professional sports. By doing this (coupled with the Seahawks (?) player who did so a few years back), little steps get taken in breaking down societal stereotypes. Sounds like a fine reason to me.

ELA 02-07-2007 05:16 PM

Professionally, I work with professional athletes. Many I get to know well and am proud to call them friends. Others, I don't get to know well, and in some cases, I really don't want to. Those client relationships usually don't last long, and that is most often my doing.

Anyway, there are many athletes who are gay who don't "come out" for a massive number of reasons -- personal, professional, family, occupational, and others. I don't sit in judgement of any of them and I've found that often, when thinking about the where, when, why, how, etc. they should or should not "come out" is a very circular discussion, and ultimately a circular debate. It's easy for someone on the outside of the situation to have an opinion, perhaps a definitive one. However, I am not so sure that as an outsider to that specific situation, one can truly empathize and stand in that person's shoes so to speak.

Eric

somerfrost 02-07-2007 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
Because they're baby steps. None of these guys feel comfortable enough to come out while they're playing a professional sport (understandable), which serves to perpetuate the myth that only heterosexuals play professional sports. By doing this (coupled with the Seahawks (?) player who did so a few years back), little steps get taken in breaking down societal stereotypes. Sounds like a fine reason to me.


Well, I can see by both the original post as well as some of the follow-up posts that there is still a long road ahead....sad, not the least bit unexpected but still sad. I would really like to know how the guy keeping his personal life to himself in any way harmed other players??? What, don't tell me you think being gay is contagious?

ELA 02-07-2007 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
Because they're baby steps. None of these guys feel comfortable enough to come out while they're playing a professional sport (understandable), which serves to perpetuate the myth that only heterosexuals play professional sports. By doing this (coupled with the Seahawks (?) player who did so a few years back), little steps get taken in breaking down societal stereotypes. Sounds like a fine reason to me.

Excellent point(s). There is without question a societal and cultural aspect to this discussion.

Eric

Cannon Shell 02-07-2007 05:57 PM

Who cares if he is gay. Who cares about him at all? A book is always the reason that these stories appear.
When T.O. 's book comes out we will have a story.

GPK 02-07-2007 06:02 PM

is it possible to come OUT of the closet...and then go back in?

A friend of mine who is gay (not that there is anything wrong with that) recently told me that he has found himself checking out women's asses more and more of late.

Cannon Shell 02-07-2007 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by T3B
is it possible to come OUT of the closet...and then go back in?

A friend of mine who is gay (not that there is anything wrong with that) recently told me that he has found himself checking out women's asses more and more of late.

This may be the funniest unintentionally funny post I have ever read.

GPK 02-07-2007 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
This may be the funniest unintentionally funny post I have ever read.


Chuck...I almost started laughing hysterically when he told me this. He is a great dude...and you would never know he is gay. I told him that before I really met him, I would have never had guessed he was gay. His response?

"Yeah...I'm very butch"


...and all this time I thought only some lesbians were considered butch.


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