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Kasept 02-03-2007 07:57 AM

2/3: GP, SA, Magna 5, More..
 
GULFSTREAM (Plus Magna 5 events)

Superfectas, Rolling DD's and P3's in ALL Gulfstream events..

2nd: ALW/N1X, 3yo, 7f

Very important soph ALW with at least 3 Derby Trail-intended colts..

1. #7 Soaring By 8-5: Won early for Pletcher-Dogwood; A+ works for '07 bow.. 2nd
2. #6 Laser 8-1: Stretchout suits Awesome Again bay from Leroy Jolley (!).. 6th
A. #3 Green Secret 6-1: KMc-Darley grey DH'd Laser here 1/6 for W.. 5th
B. #5 Longley 3-1: Motion with rare classic type; may not be cranked up.. 3rd


3rd: 18th Deputy Minister (Gr. III), 4+, 6.5f

1. #5 Sir Greeley 2-1 2nd
2. #3 High Finance 3-1 4th
3. #4 Kelly's Landing 8-5 5th


4th: MSW, 3yo, 7f

1. #3 San Geronimo 5-2: Zito-Farmer thing debuted goofily at CD; ready now.. 6th
2. #8 Marnesia's Big Boy 8-1: Low profile Calder outfit; love mile drill 1/16.. 3rd
A. #4 Winstrella 6-1: Evans homebred via plus dam; sister Colonial Minstrel a multiple GSW.. 2nd
B. #2 Curlin 3-1: Our girl Helen sends Smart Strike firter; hot a.m. tab.. WON

$1 EXA $13.80
$1 TRI $99.50



5th: 22nd Swale (Gr. II), 3yo, 6.5f (P6)

1. #2 Adore the Gold 3-1: Gorham comer 3 of 4; adds Corny for '07 bow; zippy sunrise semesters.. WON
2. #6 Forefathers 4-1: Zayat KY-bred returned to U.S. with Zito; can stalk or go.. 2nd
A. #4 Cowtown Cat 5-2: $1.5MM Dist. Humor red turns round quick; why no stretchout? 3rd
B. #5 Reata's Rocket 4-1: Joe O with best soph since Macho Uno.. 4th

$1 EXA $16.90
$1 TRI $30.90
$1 SUPER (straight) $117.50



6th: 41st Canadian Turf H. (Gr. III), 4+, 8.5f-T

1. #8 Miesque's Approval 6-5: Defending '06 Turf Champion returns from 90 day vacation.. 5th
2. #1 SCRATCHED
A. #4 Host 3-1: After Ramazutti stunt last week, can't ignore this 7yo 8X winner.. 2nd
B. #3 Giant Wrecker 15-1: Brother of CDN sire Cat's at Home always tries.. WON

$1 EXA $92.40


7th: 18th Holy Bull (Gr. III), 3yo, 1m (P4)

1. #8 Nobiz Like Shobiz 8-5: Tagg Remsen winner in good spot as Trail run commences.. WON
2. #2 Scat Daddy 2-1: First of several dozen Derby dropouts for Todd? 3rd
A. #5 Drums of Thunder 6-1: Kaplan making noise with trio of top sophs.. 2nd
B. #6 Bold Start 6-1: McPeek back on DT scene with this one, BirdBird.. 6th

$1 EXA $23.20
$1 TRI $42.00



LRL 9th (4:26pm): MSW, 3yo, 7f (Super, Leg A-Magna 5)

Tricky start to the Magna 5...

1. #11 Stowed Away 7-2: Turfy type from Tagg-Lael had slow start in PHA debut.. 4th
2. #5 Clever Hero 10-1: Gelding has faced some quality; may get lead.. 3rd
A. #10 More Cowbell 9-2: Motion newbie has steady works, go to boy.. 8th
B. #4 Moonmoonmoon 4-1: Trombetta bay has been ordinary at best; adds blinks.. WON


GP 8th (4:53pm): 58th Suwanee River H. (Gr. III), F&M-4+, 9f-T (Leg B-Magna 5)

1. #1 Naissance Royale 5-2: Rarely throws paired clunkers.. WON
2. #3 Nottawasaga 8-1: ALW shocker on major upswing for Coatrieux.. 4th
A. #6 Brazilian 6-1: Wolfson-Castro-Turf-Stake = dangerous.. 6th
B. #7 Cursora 10-1: Return to sod, addition of Kent D. may do trick for McPeek miss.. 5th


SA 4th (5:02pm): CA-bred OC/N1X, F&M-4+, 6.5-DHT (.10 Super, Leg C-Magna 5)

1. #1 Mamselle Aries 3-1 3rd
2. #2 Princess McLean 8-1 5th
A. #7 Camelita 12-1 4th
B. #5 SCRATCHED


GG 4th (5:15pm): CLM, F&M-4+, 6f (Leg D-Magna 5)

1. #3 P R's Princess 5-1 6th
2. #4 Love Fest 5-2 5th
A. #5 Cinderella Liberty 2-1 4th
B. #7 Sweet Merlot 3-1 WON


GP 9th (5:23pm): 49th Donn H. (Gr. I), 4+, 9f (Leg E-Magna 5)

1. #1 Invasor 6-5: This is right spot to try and beat '06 HOY; imposing, but.. [color="red"]WON[/COLOR}
2. #9 Strong Contender SCRATCHED SCR SUB #4 Chatain 6-1 4th
A. #7 Magna Graduate 4-1: Can he pull off a 'McCann's Mojave' here? 8th
B. #6 Hesanoldsalt 10-1: Rock solid and still improving for Nick, Live Oak.. 2nd

$1 EXA $10.10


10th: ALW/N1X, 3yo, 9f

1. #2 Roman's Run 8-1 5th
2. #5 Rutledge Cat 5-2 6th
A. #3 High Act 6-1 4th
B. #7 Torini 4-1 7th
C. #6 SCRATCHED


<#200 MAGNA 5 Play:

A. (LRL 9): 4-5-10-11
B. (GP 8): 1-6
C. (SA 4): 1-2-7
D. (GG 4): 3-4
E. (GP 9): 1-7

4x3x2x2x2 = 96 x $2 = $192



<$200 GP P6 Carryover Play:

5: 2-6
6: 8
7: 2-8
8: 1-6
9: 1-4-7
10: 2-3-5-7

2x1x2x2x3x4 = 96 x $2 = $192


<$50 P4 Play:

7: 2-8
8: 1-3-6-9
9: 1
10: 2-3-5-7-8

2x4x1x5 = $40

$1 P3 (R7-9) $5.60
$1 P3 (8-10) $222.60
$1 P4 (8-1-1-8) $447.30




SANTA ANITA (P6 Carryover)

.10 Supers races 5-6-8-10..

5th: CLM, 6f (P6, P3, DD)

1. #6 Lite Man 5-2 WON
2. #1 Whata Soldier 7-2 12th
A. #10 SCRATCHED
B. #13 Spectacular Bay 15-1 8th


6th: MSW, 6.5f-DHT (DD, P3)

1. #4 Reach for Gold 20-1 6th
2. #12 The Big One 7-2 2nd
A. #9 SCRATCHED
B. #10 Don'tbeatattletale 5-1 WON


7th: 7th Sham (Gr. III), 3yo, 9f (DD, P3, P4)

1. #1 Ravel 3-1
2. #6 Liquidity 7-5 2nd
A. #2 Pirates Deputy 4-1 6th
B. #3 Time Squared 8-1 7th


8th: 4th Thunder Road, 4+, 1m-T (DD, P3)

1. #2 Cervelo 5-1 4th
2. #6 SCRATCHED
A. #1e Canani entry 8-5 1a 8th, 1 SCRATCHED
B. #8 Bayeux 10-1 2nd


9th: 60th Strub (Gr. II), 4yo, 9f (DD)

1. #6 Midnight Lute 9-5 4th
2. #5 Brother Derek 5-2 3rd
A. #3 Arson Squad 4-1
B. #4 Awesome Gem 3-1 5th


MSW, 3yo, 6f

1. #3 Jake La Gold 5-2 WON
2. #1 Fortified 10-1 9th
A. #10 Beyond the Rim 7-2 8th
B. #8 El Falcon 15-1 DH-4th
C. #6 Storms of Life 20-1 10th


<$200 P6 Play:

5: 1-6-10
6: 4-12
7: 1-6
8: 1e-2
9: 6
10: 1-3-8-10

3x2x2x2x1x4 = 96 x $2 = $192


Enjoy the day! Good luck..
Steve



BONUS SELECTIONS: John DaSilva (NY Post) on DELTA DOWNS' LA PREMIER NIGHT

Top 3 results in red..

1st: 7-8-6 8-7-3
2nd: 7-3-6 7-3-1
3rd: 2-8-9 4-2-1
4th: 7-2-5 5-8-10
5th: 10-8-4 10-7-5
6th: 5-6-2 6-4-8
7th: 7-9-4 9-3-7
8th: 4-1-6 4-3-1
9th: 2-9-7 6-1-7
10th: 4-2-7 3-1-9

Gander 02-03-2007 08:06 AM

Good luck. I love that High Finance/Sir Greeley exacta.

golfer 02-03-2007 08:33 AM

Magna Graduate
 
"GP 9th (5:23pm): 49th Donn H. (Gr. I), 4+, 9f (Leg E-Magna 5)

A. #7 Magna Graduate 4-1: Can he pull off a 'McCann's Mojave' here?"


Steve, I'm sure you know this, but the difference between Magna Grad and Mccann's is Magna just ran a neg 4 tgraph, which makes him the fastest coming in.

Gander 02-03-2007 08:37 AM

Yes and beating Sweetnorthernsaint is one thing, beating Invasor is quite another. But cant blame those for taking a shot. This is the race to do it. I'm just not too sold on the horse that is going to do it.

Clip-Clop 02-03-2007 08:53 AM

Chatain is the most likely upsetter today.

Kasept 02-03-2007 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golfer
"GP 9th (5:23pm): 49th Donn H. (Gr. I), 4+, 9f (Leg E-Magna 5)

A. #7 Magna Graduate 4-1: Can he pull off a 'McCann's Mojave' here?"


Steve, I'm sure you know this, but the difference between Magna Grad and Mccann's is Magna just ran a neg 4 tgraph, which makes him the fastest coming in.

I was refering to controlling the front end on a speed favoring track that carries notorious phonies like Magna Graduate, or McCann's Mohave, further than they deserve to go..

golfer 02-03-2007 09:01 AM

I understand what you mean, it's just that the neg 4 makes him less phony than the completely ridiculous Mccann's Mojave.. and with that said, how souped up is the rail going to be today?

AeWingnut 02-03-2007 09:07 AM

Magna 5
 
1st Leg Laurel Race 9 ex box 11 w/ 1,4,5

#4 Moonmoonmoon - was steadied last time out adds blinkers luke warm fav.
#5 Clever Hero - should be in the lead - first timers excluded
#11 Stowed Away - poor post - will be in contention
#1 Onward and Upward - better post this time - Long shot pick

2nd Leg Gulfstream Race 8 tri box 1-3-9

#9 J'ray - I prefer the outside to the inside will be kicking for home with
#1 Naissance Royale - fav stuck on the rail - must include though
#3 Nottawasaga - 8-1 got a shot
#2 La Dolce Vita - 4th choice

3rd Leg Santa Anita Race 4 tri box 6-7-8

#8 Bettersweetmoment - just plain faster
#7 Camelita - my long shot pick
#6 Can I Call You Dad - right running style
#1 Mamselle Aries - GoGo

4th Leg Golden Gate race 4 tri key 3 over 4,5,7

#3 P R's Princess - good post good early speed
#5 Cinderella Liberty - where is Russel Baze? 2nd race off layoff
#4 Love Fest - leading jockey
#7 Sweet Merlot - wll be running late

5th Leg Gulfstream Park race 9 Superfecta 1 w/4,7 w/all w/ 5:rolleyes:

#1 Invasor - he likes to win
#7 Magna Graduate - distant 2nd chalky chalk chalk
#4 Chatain - lightly race candidate for a bounce has win over track
#5 Tap Dancing Mauk - running for 4th place that all


the Magan 5 bet

1st leg) 1,4,11
2nd leg) 3,9
3rd leg) 7,8
4th leg) 3
5th leg) 1


good luck

AeWingnut 02-03-2007 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golfer
I understand what you mean, it's just that the neg 4 makes him less phony than the completely ridiculous Mccann's Mojave.. and with that said, how souped up is the rail going to be today?

I had Mccann's Mojave (or as I like to call him #8)
the big phony paid $69. you gotta look out for that Golden Gate speed:p

he was the best of the pace setters and Sweetnothing was looking for excuses.

Last Sat was a dream come true for us longshot players

as for the rail.. I bet they do sup up the rail
they love to help super stars win

blackthroatedwind 02-03-2007 09:13 AM

AND we get DaSilva's Delta Downs picks?

Wow....this place is just the gift that keeps on giving!

golfer 02-03-2007 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AeWingnut
I had Mccann's Mojave (or as I like to call him #8)
the big phony paid $69. you gotta look out for that Golden Gate speed:p

he was the best of the pace setters and Sweetnothing was looking for excuses.

Last Sat was a dream come true for us longshot players

as for the rail.. I bet they do sup up the rail
they love to help super stars win

Congrats, Ae, one of my biggest weaknesses as a handicapper is that I am much better at complaining about a bias the next day than I am at taking advantage of it.. gotta work on that!

Kasept 02-03-2007 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golfer
I understand what you mean, it's just that the neg 4 makes him less phony than the completely ridiculous Mccann's Mojave.. and with that said, how souped up is the rail going to be today?

No reason to think it will be any less advantageous than it's been the last few weeks.

Regarding Magna Graduate, his big fig came on the unique AQU inner and he has NEVER performed when confronted by real horses.. His stakes wins are over the likes of Papi Chullo, Scrappy T and Crown Point.. Before anyone trots out his 'big' Clark win over Perfect Drift and Suave, take a good look at the :48.2 and 1:37.4 mile he carved out there. When confronted by real fractions in last year's Donn, albeit on a sloppy track he may not have cared for, he had no answer when Brass Hat, Pies Prospect and Andromeda's Hero came calling.

All that said, nothing that this barn gets away with surprises me, so I feel compelled to include him though he is utterly ridiculous.

AeWingnut 02-03-2007 09:21 AM

Steve
 
I think you have the 2nd and 3rd leg of your Magna picks mixed up

I have

Santa Anita race 4 as the 3rd Leg and the Gulfstream race8 as the 2nd leg

Kasept 02-03-2007 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AeWingnut
I think you have the 2nd and 3rd leg of your Magna picks mixed up. I have Santa Anita race 4 as the 3rd Leg and the Gulfstream race8 as the 2nd leg

Thx Ae,

Here's the layout from the MEC website..

Saturday, February 3

Leg Track Race Approx. Post (EST)

A Laurel 9 4:40 pm
B Gulfstream 8 4:53 pm
C Santa Anita 4 5:02 pm
D Golden Gate 4 5:16 pm
E Gulfstream 9 5:23 pm

Kasept 02-03-2007 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
AND we get DaSilva's Delta Downs picks?

Wow....this place is just the gift that keeps on giving!

Hmmm? Hmmm? Not so bad, eh? An 'exclusive' to Derby Trail yet..!!!

AeWingnut 02-03-2007 09:33 AM

Gulfstream Picks
 
just the numbers in my exacta box

Race 1

3-6-7

Race 2

7-6-3

Race 3

2-4-5

Race 4

4-2-7

Race 5

2-3-4

Race 6

8-7-2

Race 7

8-6-2

Race 8

1-3-9

Race 9

1-4-7

Race 10

9-5-1

$60 invested

Rootdog1 02-03-2007 09:47 AM

Steve - quick question. Can you give the angle for the #4 in the 6th at SA? 5yr old first timer, and McAnally is 5% with first timers. Just wondering if you had something that popped out in the Formulater or if Hammersly had some thoughts on this horse? I am finding others more appealing, like World Asunder, Rowan Charm or Tiznows Vineyard and just dont want to miss out on something at a FAT price. I did hear Hammersly say watch for Cervelo so maybe he had another recommendation on ATRAB that I missed??????

6th: MSW, 6.5f-DHT (DD, P3)

1. #4 Reach for Gold 20-1

lemoncrush 02-03-2007 09:50 AM

Going for a modest price ticket for the Magna today.

Leg a) 4,10,11
Leg b) 1
Leg c) 1,6,7,8
Leg d) 1,3,4
Leg e) 1

$2 ticket = $72

Will be back later for late GP and Santa Anita fun.

scrimshaw 02-03-2007 09:51 AM

Magna Grad
 
Man, it was cold as sh*t that day Magna Graduate won the Clark. Which brings me to a question that I've always wanted to ask serious handicappers. Do you guys ever take into consideration the conditions (other than the track surface and, for some guys, wind speed/direction) at the track that day? I mean, I think of it like I would if I had to get out there and run in 80 degrees vs. 25 degrees....I would be more in my stride in 80 degree weather than I would in 25 degree weather. Are horses not that sensitive to the temperature I guess? It just seems like their muscles would be tighter and less limber in cold weather vs. warm. At least that's usually how I am!! So, I guess what I'm saying is, if I'm looking for yet ANOTHER excuse to bet against MG, would the cold weather possibly be one of them??

I have always kind of wondered if MG would have held off Suave in that stretch duel if it would have been more ideal conditions, more condusive to each horse performing to their potential.

Oh, and it's got to suck to be a jock out there on 20-30 degree days...:eek:

Kasept 02-03-2007 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rootdog1
Steve - quick question. Can you give the angle for the #4 in the 6th at SA? 5yr old first timer, and McAnally is 5% with first timers. Just wondering if you had something that popped out in the Formulater or if Hammersly had some thoughts on this horse? I am finding others more appealing, like World Asunder, Rowan Charm or Tiznows Vineyard and just dont want to miss out on something at a FAT price. I did hear Hammersly say watch for Cervelo so maybe he had another recommendation on ATRAB that I missed??????

6th: MSW, 6.5f-DHT (DD, P3)

1. #4 Reach for Gold 20-1

Just a horse that reached out to me..

#1..? By Danehill.. Obviously has had issues being 5, but hasn't missed a morning beat sinced the start of the worktab and had the 1/8 bullet mixed in to boot. McAnally may be only 5% with firsters, but he's 20% first turf. He lays over on breeding, so if anywhere near ready, he seems live to me, and at 20-1 irresistable.


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