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eurobounce 01-15-2007 09:52 PM

You know, I am confused
 
Tracks state that jockeys are private contractors and not employees of the track. However, tracks can deny their entrance to the track or even ban them from riding for no reason. This doesn't make sense to me at all. Can someone please explain how this is possible for me?

eurobounce 01-15-2007 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Well obviously they weren't banned for no reason, but they could technically do it for no reason if they wanted. You see the tracks are private property and they can decide who they do, or do not want on their property. Like if someone was in your house and you didn't want them there for whatever reason. You could get them removed because it's YOUR property.

That is interesting. But these tracks are denying these people their right to work without reason. That seems a bit bizarre to me.

eurobounce 01-15-2007 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Again, I think there is obviously a reason why they did it. And they aren't denying them a right to work anywhere except on their property. What is so bizarre about that?

I understand, but why don't they have to disclose their reasoning. Hougton was denied entrance to Turfway and he wasnt given a reason. I could understand if Houghton was charged with something. But so far, no charges.

Rudeboyelvis 01-15-2007 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by eurobounce
Tracks state that jockeys are private contractors and not employees of the track. However, tracks can deny their entrance to the track or even ban them from riding for no reason. This doesn't make sense to me at all. Can someone please explain how this is possible for me?

pretty much what ya just mentioned...Private contractors are not employees and therefore have no vested relationship to the organization(s) they provide their services to on a daily basis. They (the tracks) should be able to deny anyone at anytime access to their facilities...If the reason for the dismissle is unwarranted, they (the Jocks) have the right to provide their services elsewhere and make someone else rich.

Yea America!

eurobounce 01-15-2007 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
One more time, the tracks are private property. You do not need a reason to not want someone on your private property. They are obviously building a case so to disclose anything about it would be stupid.

I understand the private property thing--but I am sure there are some labor laws that are being broken here. Each state is different. But I am sure this would make an interesting case.

eurobounce 01-15-2007 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Why are labor laws being broken? The tracks aren't saying you can't be a jockey anywhere, they are saying you can't ride at their track. Each track is making their own decision. I think Laurel is allowing one of the banned guys ride there.

I had some people that were contract employees and I couldnt deny them entrance to my facilities without just cause. The reason being is that they have established a working history at the property. If I denied them entrance, then I could get sued under the Labor Laws of Indiana. I needed to have a good reason to deny a person employment.

eurobounce 01-30-2007 10:39 AM

Just as I thought would happen. The jockey guild is sending a letter to the tracks saying that denying jocks due process before denying them the right to earn a living.

In my opinion, they jocks are prob going to sue and win. Even if you own the property, you cannot deny a person's right to earn a living without due process.

Here is the link to the story.
http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/nat...-unlawful.aspx


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