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oracle80 12-14-2006 02:48 PM

Half Ours wins
 
Couldn't see the race in the fog at all, but he wonin 1:10:4 to remain "undefeated".

repent 12-14-2006 03:11 PM

went for quite a bit of money at the NOV auction.

didnt one half of the parnership essentially just buy the other half out?
why go to auction just to do that?

or am I thinking of another horse?


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Balletto 12-14-2006 03:14 PM

You're thinking of the right horse. At public auction, anyone can essentially buy the horse, but it usually goes to one of the original owners since they're essentially only paying "half" of the final outcome of the sale.

Obviously, this is done when the two parties cant agree on a buy-out price and rely on the fair market value to determine it.

Cannon Shell 12-14-2006 03:18 PM

I'd rather have 1/2 of $6 million right about now

repent 12-14-2006 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balletto
You're thinking of the right horse. At public auction, anyone can essentially buy the horse, but it usually goes to one of the original owners since they're essentially only paying "half" of the final outcome of the sale.

Obviously, this is done when the two parties cant agree on a buy-out price and rely on the fair market value to determine it.

makes sense.
I just would have assumed they could have agreed upon something to save themselves the costs associated with going to auction.
but maybe those costs are not substantial.
I dont know anything about that.

thanks for the response.



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Sightseek 12-14-2006 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by repent
makes sense.
I just would have assumed they could have agreed upon something to save themselves the costs associated with going to auction.
but maybe those costs are not substantial.
I dont know anything about that.

thanks for the response.



Repent

It's also a way for a stud farm to boost and help their own stallions in the yearling markets by entering into foal shares and buying said foal when he/she enters the ring.

repent 12-14-2006 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sightseek
It's also a way for a stud farm to boost and help their own stallions in the yearling markets by entering into foal shares and buying said foal when he/she enters the ring.


yeah but he went in the ring as a raced 2YO in November.

what you guys makes sense, I just found it odd that they went to auction when one half of the partnership was willing to buy out the other.
I dont know a lot about that part of the business, which is why I asked.


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oracle80 12-14-2006 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by repent
yeah but he went in the ring as a raced 2YO in November.

what you guys makes sense, I just found it odd that they went to auction when one half of the partnership was willing to buy out the other.
I dont know a lot about that part of the business, which is why I asked.


Repent

I would guess that maybe they themslves had no idea what the fair market value was. I think they probably had a predetermined price as which they would stop if noone except them was bidding. They aren't stupid guys, to say the least.

cmorioles 12-14-2006 03:31 PM

Was he sold this November, or last? He was away a llllooonng time before today.

Sightseek 12-14-2006 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by repent
yeah but he went in the ring as a raced 2YO in November.

what you guys makes sense, I just found it odd that they went to auction when one half of the partnership was willing to buy out the other.
I dont know a lot about that part of the business, which is why I asked.


Repent

I was speaking of another way that partnerships work with foal shares, not of Half Ours. Isn't he 3 now?

There is always the chance too that someone else would have stepped in and paid a lot for him as well, look at Spring at Last for instance. You never know what could happen in the ring.

repent 12-14-2006 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sightseek
I was speaking of another way that partnerships work with foal shares, not of Half Ours. Isn't he 3 now?

There is always the chance too that someone else would have stepped in and paid a lot for him as well, look at Spring at Last for instance. You never know what could happen in the ring.


yeah,
I mistyped.

he is 3.
good catch.


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blackthroatedwind 12-14-2006 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
He looked very good today. :D

Very impressive. Did you get the nuances of his difficult trip?

blackthroatedwind 12-14-2006 05:28 PM

Even in the fog he didn't look like six million bucks.

Danzig 12-14-2006 06:02 PM

according to the article i read, both halves wanted the horse, but didn't want to remain in partnership. the losing partner was the immediate under-bidder on the horse.

shouldn't he change the name to neenerneener,he'sallminenow? mmm, nah, too many letters.

blackthroatedwind 12-14-2006 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig188
according to the article i read, both halves wanted the horse, but didn't want to remain in partnership. the losing partner was the immediate under-bidder on the horse.

shouldn't he change the name to neenerneener,he'sallminenow? mmm, nah, too many letters.

I think the underbidder was relieved.

Danzig 12-14-2006 06:08 PM

and probably patting himself on the back for running up the bid!

oracle80 12-14-2006 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I think the underbidder was relieved.

I just dont understand the price, I really dont. The horse would have to stand for 20K at least to justify that price. I mean, isn't that just a "tad" optimistic?

hoovesupsideyourhead 12-14-2006 06:49 PM

durkin was on his second flask.."oh ..and the 7 half ours wins....oh i think..i dont know."..


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