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blackthroatedwind 12-13-2006 05:02 PM

NYRA Fights Back
 
Here is the early story. I am guessing there will be a more in depth article in the near future.


http://www.drf.com/news/article/81214.html

Samm 12-13-2006 05:10 PM

Bloodhorse.... http://news.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=36712

paisjpq 12-13-2006 05:12 PM

good for NYRA I say...

blackthroatedwind 12-13-2006 05:12 PM

The third paragraph of the Bloodhorse article also points out that unsurprisingly, but thankfully, any attempt by Pataki to slip Excelsior through during this special session is dead.

blackthroatedwind 12-13-2006 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
good for NYRA I say...


I agree. I am glad to see them fighting. Anything as important as this is well worth fighting for.

Samm 12-13-2006 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I agree. I am glad to see them fighting. Anything as important as this is well worth fighting for.

Amen!!! I totally agree (had to add that so the message was long enough!)

Fanofthejuiceguys 12-13-2006 05:50 PM

NYRA as a company is so totally incompetent that if this were a publically traded company, half the management would be fired and the other half would be in jail. For the betterment of the entire industry, a big broom is necessary to make a clean sweep of the entire organization. Are there a few good, well intentioned people who work there, of course, but their customer service is a disgrace, they treat the horsemen and owners like crap, and the place is run worse than any bottom tier track in the third world. You may say, the devil you know is better than the devil you don't, but to me, in this case, practically anyone else would be a dramatic, drastic, immediate improvement, that is necessary before current management destroys what little remains of once great New York racing.

oracle80 12-13-2006 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Fanofthejuiceguys
NYRA as a company is so totally incompetent that if this were a publically traded company, half the management would be fired and the other half would be in jail. For the betterment of the entire industry, a big broom is necessary to make a clean sweep of the entire organization. Are there a few good, well intentioned people who work there, of course, but their customer service is a disgrace, they treat the horsemen and owners like crap, and the place is run worse than any bottom tier track in the third world. You may say, the devil you know is better than the devil you don't, but to me, in this case, practically anyone else would be a dramatic, drastic, immediate improvement, that is necessary before current management destroys what little remains of once great New York racing.


LOL!! I take from this tone that you are an Empire supporter. Whens the next rally? I hear there is going to be a book burning at it!!!

Fanofthejuiceguys 12-13-2006 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
LOL!! I take from this tone that you are an Empire supporter. Whens the next rally? I hear there is going to be a book burning at it!!!


Actually, I'm not a particular supporter of either of the other bidders, I really just don't like what I see going on out there, and think that some major changes are in order. I do agree that NYRA has to a large extent been screwed over by the politicization of the potential slots windfall, but they are really being done in by their own arrogance.

oracle80 12-13-2006 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Fanofthejuiceguys
Actually, I'm not a particular supporter of either of the other bidders, I really just don't like what I see going on out there, and think that some major changes are in order. I do agree that NYRA has to a large extent been screwed over by the politicization of the potential slots windfall, but they are really being done in by their own arrogance.

What arrogance is that exactly?

Fanofthejuiceguys 12-13-2006 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
What arrogance is that exactly?

The same kind of condescending know it all, I'm the only one that's right, if you don't like it go somewhere else attitude that you have.

blackthroatedwind 12-13-2006 07:15 PM

Here is the final article which includes some interesting, and pretty much previously undiscussed, information about NYRA's purchasing of the properties.


http://www.drf.com/news/article/81245.html

oracle80 12-13-2006 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Fanofthejuiceguys
The same kind of condescending know it all, I'm the only one that's right, if you don't like it go somewhere else attitude that you have.

I have never found anyone at NYRA to be condescending and not caring. Apparently you have an axe to grind with them.

Hickory Hill Hoff 12-13-2006 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fanofthejuiceguys
NYRA as a company is so totally incompetent that if this were a publically traded company, half the management would be fired and the other half would be in jail. For the betterment of the entire industry, a big broom is necessary to make a clean sweep of the entire organization. Are there a few good, well intentioned people who work there, of course, but their customer service is a disgrace, they treat the horsemen and owners like crap, and the place is run worse than any bottom tier track in the third world. You may say, the devil you know is better than the devil you don't, but to me, in this case, practically anyone else would be a dramatic, drastic, immediate improvement, that is necessary before current management destroys what little remains of once great New York racing.

YOU GOT TO BE CRAZY!!! There are a lot more tracks out there that are more like OTB parlors in this country, than ANY NYRA run track. It's personal with you and NYRA...ADMIT IT, FOOL!!! :eek:

Sightseek 12-13-2006 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Here is the final article which includes some interesting, and pretty much previously undiscussed, information about NYRA's purchasing of the properties.


http://www.drf.com/news/article/81245.html

That paints a different picture than the article the Thoroughbred Times published in last week's edition regarding the land dispute. I wished now I hadn't tossed it, but the contract that was agreed upon in the 80 or 90's wasn't the clearest as far as land ownership went.

blackthroatedwind 12-13-2006 09:26 PM

The franchise extension in 1983 had a provision that stated the land would be ceded to the state if NYRA ceased to run the franchise, and I have stated earlier this is the legal claim the state has on the land and very much the issue to be ruled on, but there is a substantial argument against the legality of this provision.

That same language was also NOT in the franchise extension from 1997.

Sightseek 12-13-2006 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
The franchise extension in 1983 had a provision that stated the land would be ceded to the state if NYRA ceased to run the franchise, and I have stated earlier this is the legal claim the state has on the land and very much the issue to be ruled on, but there is a substantial argument against the legality of this provision.

That same language was also NOT in the franchise extension from 1997.

Any idea where Spitzer stands with all of this?

blackthroatedwind 12-13-2006 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
Any idea where Spitzer stands with all of this?


That's the million dollar question.

You can get a number of different opinions on this depending on who you ask.

Sightseek 12-13-2006 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
That's the million dollar question.

You can get a number of different opinions on this depending on who you ask.

I hate watching and waiting.....

blackthroatedwind 12-13-2006 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
I hate watching and waiting.....


I am enjoying it. Personal feelings aside, it's pretty entertaining stuff, and ideally some good should come out of it ( perhaps not realistically ). I think some very interesting developments await us.

Regardless of how one feels I have to believe it's good to see NYRA finally go on the offensive. Personally I have felt they have stayed reasonably quiet for too long.


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