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Kasept 10-06-2023 09:29 AM

Breeders' Cup Saturday ~ Prospective Fields
 
CLASSIC

Arcangelo (Jena Antonucc)i 7-2
Arabian Knight (Bob Baffert) 4-1
Geaux Rocket Ride (Richard Mandella) 5-1
Ushba Tesoro (Noboru Takagi) 6-1
White Abarrio (Rick Dutrow Jr.) 6-1
Bright Future (Todd Pletcher) 10-1
Zandon (Chad Brown) 12-1
Proxy (Michael Stidham) 15-1
Saudi Crown (Brad Cox) 20-1

Others: Clapton, Defunded, Derma Sotogake, King of Steel, Mage, Senor Buscador, Skippylongstocking

King Glorious 10-07-2023 02:44 PM

Looking at this field, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Practical Move here instead of going in the Dirt Mile. Since the trainer may send Echo Zulu in the Sprint, that might push Gunite to the Dirt Mile. If that’s the case, Gunite and Cody’s Wish might be tougher to beat at 8f than anything that’s going in the Classic.

blackthroatedwind 10-07-2023 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious (Post 1175731)
Looking at this field, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Practical Move here instead of going in the Dirt Mile. Since the trainer may send Echo Zulu in the Sprint, that might push Gunite to the Dirt Mile. If that’s the case, Gunite and Cody’s Wish might be tougher to beat at 8f than anything that’s going in the Classic.

Your trolling is getting better and better! I actually thought this was serious for a minute. Fine work.

King Glorious 10-07-2023 08:54 PM

Death.
Taxes.
Kershaw getting lit up in October.
Your act.

Dahoss 10-08-2023 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious (Post 1175734)
Death.
Taxes.
Kershaw getting lit up in October.
Your act.

To be fair what you said made no sense. Not sure if you saw Gunite get beat fairly easily by the mighty Nimitz Class last time at 1/5 but I don’t think anyone is afraid of running against him going a two turn mile. I also don’t think Cody’s Wish is scaring anyone away. His last two were not his usual runs and again, two turns doesn’t seem like his best.

Practical Move actually has a shot in the dirt mile. He has no shot in the Classic.

blackthroatedwind 10-08-2023 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1175738)
To be fair what you said made no sense. Not sure if you saw Gunite get beat fairly easily by the mighty Nimitz Class last time at 1/5 but I don’t think anyone is afraid of running against him going a two turn mile. I also don’t think Cody’s Wish is scaring anyone away. His last two were not his usual runs and again, two turns doesn’t seem like his best.

Practical Move actually has a shot in the dirt mile. He has no shot in the Classic.

I was being nice. What he posted was so bad it had to be trolling. I still believe it was...intentional or not.

King Glorious 10-08-2023 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1175738)
To be fair what you said made no sense. Not sure if you saw Gunite get beat fairly easily by the mighty Nimitz Class last time at 1/5 but I don’t think anyone is afraid of running against him going a two turn mile. I also don’t think Cody’s Wish is scaring anyone away. His last two were not his usual runs and again, two turns doesn’t seem like his best.

Practical Move actually has a shot in the dirt mile. He has no shot in the Classic.

Thank you.

Dahoss 10-08-2023 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious (Post 1175744)
Thank you.

Is it fair to say you didn’t know Gunite got beaten by Nimitz Class?

King Glorious 10-08-2023 07:58 PM

No it isn’t fair to say. It was on a sloppy track and Gunite even got weight from the winner. He’s won all of his races around one turn and is winless in I think two starts around two turns. In no way do I think he’s a world champion. But I’m also not impressed with the horses pointing to the Classic. I don’t think he wins either race but one is worth $6 million and the other isn’t. I don’t see where they have much to lose trying the Classic. I think this is a perfect year for a long shot winner.

Kasept 10-10-2023 03:47 AM

DISTAFF

Idiomatic (Brad Cox) 3-1
Adare Manor (Bob Baffert) 5-1
Search Results (Chad Brown) 6-1
Clairiere (Steve Asmussen) 6-1
Randomized (Chad Brown) 10-1
Nest (Todd Pletcher) 15-1
Belleza de Arteaga (Juan Saldivia) 20-1
Desert Dawn (Phil D'Amato) 20-1
Wet Paint (Brad Cox) 20-1

Others: A Mo Reay, Bellamore, Pretty Mischievous, Xigeria

Kasept 10-11-2023 05:09 AM

MILE

Paddington (Aidan O'Brien) 5-2 ~ Iffy to come..
Kinross (Ralph Beckett) 9-2
Songline (Toru Hayashi) 5-1
In Italian (Chad Brown) 6-1
Kelina (Carlos Laffon-Parias) 8-1
Up to the Mark (Todd Pletcher) 10-1 ~ BC Turf instead..
Master of the Seas (Charlie Appleby) 10-1 ~ Possible
Casa Creed (Bill Mott) 12-1
Chaldean (Andrew Balding) 20-1 ~ Champions Day runner
Mawj (Saeed bin Suroor) 30-1 ~ QEII Cup, X-entry for F&M Turf

Others: Annapolis, Astronomer, Du Jour, Exaulted, Lukka, More Than Looks, Mutasaabeq, Sauterne, Shirl's Speight

freddymo 10-11-2023 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious (Post 1175747)
No it isn’t fair to say. It was on a sloppy track and Gunite even got weight from the winner. He’s won all of his races around one turn and is winless in I think two starts around two turns. In no way do I think he’s a world champion. But I’m also not impressed with the horses pointing to the Classic. I don’t think he wins either race but one is worth $6 million and the other isn’t. I don’t see where they have much to lose trying the Classic. I think this is a perfect year for a long shot winner.

Unless there is a stallion deal orchestrated (is there) he has a race to lose which he will as well as not building towards a 4-year-old handicap stallion building campaign.

Kasept 10-11-2023 09:38 AM

F&M SPRINT

Goodnight Olive (Chad Brown) 3-1
Society (Steve Asmussen) 6-1
Caramel Swirl (Bill Mott) 6-1
Wicked Halo (Steve Asmussen) 10-1
Yuugiri (Rodolphe Brisset) 10-1
Matareya (Brad Cox) 10-1
Kirstenbosch (John Sadler) 15-1
Three Witches (Saffie Joseph, Jr.) 30-1
Eda (Bob Baffert) 30-1

Others: Clearly Unhinged, Sterling Silver, Maryquitecontrary, Elm Drive, Headland, Last Leaf, Desert Dawn, Meikei Yell

Kasept 10-14-2023 04:19 AM

SPRINT

Elite Power (Bill Mott) 5-2
The Chosen Vron (Eric Kruljac) 5-1
Dr. Schivel (Mark Glatt) 6-1
Speed Boat Beach (Bob Baffert) 8-1
Anarchist (Doug O'Neill) 8-1
Gunite (Steve Asmussen ) 12-1
Hoist the Gold (Dallas Stewart) 20-1
Nakatomi (Wesley Ward) 30-1
Three Technique (Jason Cook) 30-1

Kasept 10-14-2023 04:25 AM

DIRT MILE

Cody's Wish (Bill Mott) 8-5
Practical Move (Tim Yakteen) 6-1
Zozos (Brad Cox) 6-1
Saudi Crown (Brad Cox) 6-1
Gunite (Steve Asmussen) 8-1
Skippylongstocking (Saffie Joseph) 10-1
Algiers (Simon Crisford) 10-1
Charge It (Todd Pletcher) 12-1 ~ Classic consideration
Stage Raider (Cherie DeVaux) 15-1
Senor Buscador (Todd Fincher) 20-1 ~ Classic first preference

Kasept 10-14-2023 04:32 AM

F&M TURF

In Italian (Chad Brown) 3-1 ~ Mile
Warm Heart (Aidan O'Brien) 7-2
Inspiral (John Gosden) 4-1
Fev Rover (Mark Casse) 8-1
Jackie Oh (Aidan O'Brien) 8-1 ~ British Champions FM, ASC, Oct. 21
Didia (Ignacio Correas) 12-1
Lumiere Rock (Joseph O'Brien) 12-1
McKulick (Chad Brown) 15-1
Gina Romantica (Chad Brown) 15-1
Win Marilyn (Takahisa Tezuka) 30-1

Others: Al Husn, India, Consumer Spending, Parnac, Place du Carrousel, Whitebeam

Kasept 10-14-2023 05:36 AM

TURF SPRINT

Motorious (Phil D'Amato) 7-2
Live In The Dream (Adam West) 4-1
Caravel (Brad Cox) 6-1
Bradsell (Archie Watson) 12-1
Big Invasion (Christophe Clement) 15-1
Arzak (Mike Trombetta) 20-1
Private Creed (Steve Asmussen) 20-1
Twilight Gleaming (Wesley Ward) 20-1

Others: Beer Can Man, Cogburn, Gear Jockey, Jasper Krone, Nobals, One Timer, Our Shot, Today's Flavor, Roses for Debra

Kasept 10-17-2023 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1175800)
DIRT MILE

Cody's Wish (Bill Mott) 8-5
Practical Move (Tim Yakteen) 6-1
Zozos (Brad Cox) 6-1
Saudi Crown (Brad Cox) 6-1
Gunite (Steve Asmussen) 8-1
Algiers (Simon Crisford) 10-1
Stage Raider (Cherie DeVaux) 15-1
Senor Buscador (Todd Fincher) 20-1 ~ Classic first preference
Il Miracolo (Antonio Sano) 20-1

On ATR, Mary Rampellini (via Dave Grening) reports Dirt Mile for Charge It (or Classic) and Skippylongstocking..

freddymo 10-18-2023 08:40 AM

Charge it? Hasn't he reached his credit limit? If TAP gets that one back into the winner's circle, it will prove he is the most incredible trainer ever.

Kasept 10-22-2023 04:53 PM

TURF

Auguste Rodin (Aidan O'Brien) 5-2
Mostahdaf (John and Thady Gosden) 3-1
Up to the Mark (Todd Pletcher) 4-1
King of Steel (Roger Varian) 6-1 ~ Possible out of Champion
Onesto (Fabrice Chappet) 8-1
War Like Goddess (Bill Mott) 10-1
Bolshoi Ballet (Aidan O'Brien) 12-1
Balladeer (George Papaprodromou) 15-1
Soldier Rising (Christophe Clement) 15-1
Gold Phoenix (Phil D'Amato) 20-1
Get Smokin (Mark Casse) 30-1

Others: Broome, Piz Badile, Raptor's, Shahryar, Sisfahan


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