Originally Posted by UncleBenelli (Post 1163318)

The 9th race would have been the only race with sandwich opportunity,

It would have been a profitable trifecta, but the Ticket structure would have lossed. Most difficult aspect of building the ticket is correctly slotting the correct numbers,

Very High Probability that the ticket structure would have been,

3,11/1,5,?/all
question Mark on the 3rd horse in the two slot, as I did not handicap the races yesterday,

If Steve does not have a 5th horse to his selections, I insert what I call the Casper Pick. Since didnt cap, no idea who that Casper Horse would have been.
Possible that Casper could have been the 8, in which case then the ticket would have hit, twice!

Just an example, so that I can get criticized again, but I will call out a losing ticket due to wrong ticket structure, as I do not win all the time, and often times have left with ass in hand,. Its gamblling, sometimes it hits sometimes, you miss one on bad ticket structure, incorrect picks or flat dead ass wrong.

The key, is to select the races with highest probability of bombs ducking in,. How I tend to Identify that is through Steve's capping.
If he has two of 4 horses selected with short odds, I move on, as the large payout is really not probable and a waste of money to try.

However, when Steve has selections that have all healthy odds, then I see a large field, then the opportunities arise. I know he is never far off, and when he misses often times its a large price that squeezes him out.

After years of watching and observing his selections,
I took Mannys trifecta formula, Steve's handicapping, and Gordon Jones's, ticket structure through squares, circles and triangles (very similar to ABC).

I found very quickly for this to be a profitable approach. The key is the Casper selection. and then having the ticket structured correctly.

I have done this long enough and consistently enough to know, whether the ticket would have been correct.

The above 9th is that example

If Steve has,

Most Likely- #3
Next best - #6
best value - #9
Exotics - #1

Then I have to go in and find the Last Horse, Often times I just use the best probable price, if I am not with Manuel. The Casper Horse needs to be a price. or its no bet. finding that 5th horse is really important. Unless steve caps 5 usually seen as the Super add. So, most likely ticket structure would have been,
3,9/1,6, ?/all

For shorter bank roll or only targeting the bomb one can save on two tickets, by not utilizing the ALL button in the 3rd slot, this way it is only four tickets, except you will lose possibility of cashing it twice.

So lets say the Casper Horse was the #5,

4 tickets would be,

3,9/all/ 1,5,6
All/3,9/1,5,6
All/1,5,6/3,9
1,5,6/all/3,9

If you box it all the way, obviously you would have two more tickets added
In 3,9/1,5,6/All, and 1,5,6/3,9/all


Everyone have a fantastic Good Friday. As Good will make you better, and your better will become your best! that would equate to Best Bettor.

Good Luck all, may god bless your weekend!

Originally Posted by UncleBenelli (Post 1163318)

The 9th race would have been the only race with sandwich opportunity,

It would have been a profitable trifecta, but the Ticket structure would have lossed. Most difficult aspect of building the ticket is correctly slotting the correct numbers,

Very High Probability that the ticket structure would have been,

3,11/1,5,?/all
question Mark on the 3rd horse in the two slot, as I did not handicap the races yesterday,

If Steve does not have a 5th horse to his selections, I insert what I call the Casper Pick. Since didnt cap, no idea who that Casper Horse would have been.
Possible that Casper could have been the 8, in which case then the ticket would have hit, twice!

Just an example, so that I can get criticized again, but I will call out a losing ticket due to wrong ticket structure, as I do not win all the time, and often times have left with ass in hand,. Its gamblling, sometimes it hits sometimes, you miss one on bad ticket structure, incorrect picks or flat dead ass wrong.

The key, is to select the races with highest probability of bombs ducking in,. How I tend to Identify that is through Steve's capping.
If he has two of 4 horses selected with short odds, I move on, as the large payout is really not probable and a waste of money to try.

However, when Steve has selections that have all healthy odds, then I see a large field, then the opportunities arise. I know he is never far off, and when he misses often times its a large price that squeezes him out.

After years of watching and observing his selections,
I took Mannys trifecta formula, Steve's handicapping, and Gordon Jones's, ticket structure through squares, circles and triangles (very similar to ABC).

I found very quickly for this to be a profitable approach. The key is the Casper selection. and then having the ticket structured correctly.

I have done this long enough and consistently enough to know, whether the ticket would have been correct.

The above 9th is that example

If Steve has,

Most Likely- #3
Next best - #6
best value - #9
Exotics - #1

Then I have to go in and find the Last Horse, Often times I just use the best probable price, if I am not with Manuel. The Casper Horse needs to be a price. or its no bet. finding that 5th horse is really important. Unless steve caps 5 usually seen as the Super add. So, most likely ticket structure would have been,
3,9/1,6, ?/all

For shorter bank roll or only targeting the bomb one can save on two tickets, by not utilizing the ALL button in the 3rd slot, this way it is only four tickets, except you will lose possibility of cashing it twice.

So lets say the Casper Horse was the #5,

4 tickets would be,

3,9/all/ 1,5,6
All/3,9/1,5,6
All/1,5,6/3,9
1,5,6/all/3,9

If you box it all the way, obviously you would have two more tickets added
In 3,9/1,5,6/All, and 1,5,6/3,9/all


Everyone have a fantastic Good Friday. As Good will make you better, and your better will become your best! that would equate to Best Bettor.

Good Luck all, may god bless your weekend!

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1163321)

I'm still trying to figure out what "lossed" means.

You have to give this lunatic credit for one thing....he has managed to unite enemies.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1163321)

I'm still trying to figure out what "lossed" means.

You have to give this lunatic credit for one thing....he has managed to unite enemies.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1163325)

You can't bet like this at a 25% takeout rate and not get crushed in the long run ( if not sooner ). You are giving up so much edge that you will get completely destroyed unless you are getting a huge rebate and have a decent opinion....and even then it's not likely.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1163325)

You can't bet like this at a 25% takeout rate and not get crushed in the long run ( if not sooner ). You are giving up so much edge that you will get completely destroyed unless you are getting a huge rebate and have a decent opinion....and even then it's not likely.

Originally Posted by UncleBenelli (Post 1163334)

I wouldnt Lift the Lid for you!

Originally Posted by UncleBenelli (Post 1163332)

Anyone else?

LOL Love all you guys i really do, even Dumb Dumb, The forum Mayor!

OK I admit, its all total BS, and You can never win this way all the Odds are against me and I have zero clue what I am doing,. I guess in the end I just really wanted to be Liked by all the greatest horse handicappers in the world who are all found here at the Derby tail.

I wont do it anymore, besides my Mom found out I have been sneaking out of the basement so, I have been grounded and my allowance cut in Half.

Now If I can Just convivence the boys at the dog track, maybe I can be someone Like Dahoss some day,

I apologize and I also quit my Job, I can No longer live with Myself, walking around all day as a Charlton has finally worn me out.
At this point, why Lie, I just want a beer. And Maybe a couple bucks to bet the trifecta straight, on the 1,2,3/.

I have made an appointment to see the therapists, and told Manny to fly back to Cuba.

I only hope I am not found criminally liable for all my BS. I am a small man and would not fair well in Prison.

In the future if I do Post, It will be ALL/ALL/ALL but I will have to steal Moms purse to afford such a ticket.

Back to the Tonka Trucks, I tried.

Good Luck Pros!!

Originally Posted by UncleBenelli (Post 1163353)

I dont understand the question? It is amazing to me, how defensive and stir crazy internet forum gamblers get.. Such a unique bunch, So driven by fear

What is funny is how many have attacked with all angles directed towards fraud, lol why is it, that all your thoughts are always driven behind proving someone wrong, or what have you.

My writing has been so twisted around through this entire ordeal, that started with the Mayors abuse.

No matter how you all want to spin it, it was caused through Dahoss propoganda and the Like. 25 examples, and my writing is extremly poor. I have said that for 20 years on multiple shops.
If you all spent half as much time investigating your horses, a few of you would pick a lot more winners,

The fact that you are digging puts a smile on My face, as you will only Find my roots. Lots of folks no Me, mostly So Cal, so keep on digging and trying to find what makes you feel good.

The Fear Monger forum lol oh man, I mean to shout