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knickslions2 05-01-2019 05:07 PM

Omaha Beach scratch
 
Entrapped epiglottis. Tough break

pb72vett 05-01-2019 05:09 PM

Pb72vett winner
 
Now we know why Steve was not on that horse to begin he knew something ? Yes.

pb72vett 05-01-2019 05:11 PM

Ok Mr.King B who do we move up?

moses 05-01-2019 05:35 PM

That sucks. Will that impact his overall quality of life / ability to race (if that’s even in the plans)?

Immediate reaction is that this benefits the front runners and hurts some of the deep closers as OB was likely going to be near the pace. I’m guessing Maximum Security or Game Winner ends up as the favorite now.

knickslions2 05-01-2019 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moses (Post 1125419)
That sucks. Will that impact his overall quality of life / ability to race (if that’s even in the plans)?

Immediate reaction is that this benefits the front runners and hurts some of the deep closers as OB was likely going to be near the pace. I’m guessing Maximum Security or Game Winner ends up as the favorite now.

Baffert horses will be favorites.

moses 05-01-2019 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 1125420)
Baffert horses will be favorites.

I only threw MS in there because I do think the 3 Bafferts will split the voting a bit.

knickslions2 05-01-2019 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moses (Post 1125421)
I only threw MS in there because I do think the 3 Bafferts will split the voting a bit.

Ya there’s enough money to go around. I expect three Baffert stop three favs. This is a big scratch.

bigjag0716 05-01-2019 05:57 PM

Wonder how much this will effect the pace, I know he stalks, but he definitely was going to be running in the top 3 or 4

tywizard 05-01-2019 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by pb72vett (Post 1125416)
Now we know why Steve was not on that horse to begin he knew something ? Yes.

This is absurd. It’s also the type of thing that damages the game.

I’m going to assume you’re referring to his selections and comments from the Xpressbet Wagering Guide. Those were due last week. Prior to the horses final work - one that received universal praise.

There are plenty of legitimate Handicapping angles that would lead someone to oppose this horse.

moses 05-01-2019 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by tywizard (Post 1125424)
This is absurd. It’s also the type of thing that damages the game.

I’m going to assume you’re referring to his selections and comments from the Xpressbet Wagering Guide. Those were due last week. Prior to the horses final work - one that received universal praise.

There are plenty of legitimate Handicapping angles that would lead someone to oppose this horse.

There were a lot of things pointing to a possible regression with OB and the likeliest pace scenario didn’t seem to benefit him compared to some of the horses mentioned in Steve’s selections. Also, Steve included OB in an exacta wager with Improbable and Max Sec. In short, agreed that it’s absurd.

moses 05-01-2019 06:07 PM

My biggest question is: does Mike Smith end up anywhere after this?

Minidar 05-01-2019 07:08 PM

This puts Maximum Security alone up front. Omaha would have pulled to the front. Don't over handicap. There are only five contenders unless extremely sloppy.

moses 05-01-2019 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Minidar (Post 1125428)
This puts Maximum Security alone up front. Omaha would have pulled to the front. Don't over handicap. There are only five contenders unless extremely sloppy.

Vekoma is just as fast as him, if not faster.

Mike 05-01-2019 07:24 PM

Vekoma has some nice wet track breeding

knickslions2 05-01-2019 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moses (Post 1125426)
My biggest question is: does Mike Smith end up anywhere after this?

I think he will be watching this one

Alabama Stakes 05-01-2019 07:49 PM

Will cost $180,000 to get him ?

richard burch 05-01-2019 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minidar (Post 1125428)
This puts Maximum Security alone up front. Omaha would have pulled to the front. Don't over handicap. There are only five contenders unless extremely sloppy.

Its looking that way!



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knickslions2 05-02-2019 08:19 AM

Haikal has a foot abscess. Status unclear now but probably a scratch

Holybull1 05-02-2019 09:33 AM

This bumps Game Winner to the dreaded #15 gate. Something to consider.


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