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Kasept 03-04-2019 12:02 PM

Hoffa's Union on the move..
 
Pending vet exam, appears Gary Barber & Adam Wachtel have won the lottery for impressive LRL maidenbreaker Hoffa's Union..

Alabama Stakes 03-04-2019 12:21 PM

As a retired teamster, I was not expecting that post.

Just heard Luke Perry died . 52 RIP

Kasept 03-07-2019 05:07 AM

Hoffa’s Union sold, turned over to Casse
By David Grening

Hoffa’s Union, who won a two-turn, 1 1/16-mile maiden race at Laurel Park by 15 1/2 lengths on Feb. 28, has been purchased privately by Gary Barber, Adam Wachtel, and Christopher Dunn and turned over to trainer Mark Casse.

Hoffa’s Union was owned by Non Stop Racing Stable, Rose Petal Stable, and Foard J. Wilgis and trained by Maryland-based Gary Capuano.

Wachtel said Hoffa’s Union would be a late nominee to the Triple Crown series – a $6,000 nomination fee is due March 18 – and could make his next start in a Kentucky Derby points race such as the Florida Derby or Wood Memorial.

“We’re going to keep all our options open,” Wachtel said Wednesday. “If Mark feels he continues to train forwardly and he really thinks that that first race is indicative of his true ability, we might take a shot against some of the big boys.”

Wachtel mentioned the Florida Derby at Gulfstream on March 30 and the Wood at Aqueduct on April 6 because Barber already has horses pointing to the Louisiana Derby (War of Will) and Rebel (Our Braintrust).

Hoffa’s Union, a gelding by 2012 Belmont Stakes winner Union Rags, won at first asking by 15 1/2 lengths, running the distance of about 1 1/16 miles in 1:43.62 and earning a 94 Beyer Speed Figure. He also earned an 8 on the Ragozin sheets, according to Wachtel. Hoffa’s Union did so without racing on the antibleeding medication Lasix.

“He may not have beaten anybody, but he did it quite easily,” Wachtel said. “He sure did it impressively. I think what I really liked about him, and so did Gary, he had quite a spectacular stride on him. He covers a tremendous amount of ground. There’s a lot of potential there, I think. The no-Lasix angle certainly was appealing.”

Hoffa’s Union arrived at Casse’s farm in Ocala, Fla., on Wednesday.

Alabama Stakes 03-07-2019 09:35 AM

How much do you think they paid for him ?

Kasept 03-07-2019 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1123056)
How much do you think they paid for him ?

A lot. Crazy money for a gelding.

robfla 03-07-2019 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1123056)
How much do you think they paid for him ?


The son of Union Rags has a new home, sold privately for an undisclosed six-figure sum to a group that will enlist Mark Casse as his trainer as part of his Florida contingent.

https://www.theracingbiz.com/2019/03...on-sells-high/

moses 03-07-2019 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by robfla (Post 1123069)
The son of Union Rags has a new home, sold privately for an undisclosed six-figure sum to a group that will enlist Mark Casse as his trainer as part of his Florida contingent.

https://www.theracingbiz.com/2019/03...on-sells-high/

Six figures? That’s Ted Danson money.

Rupert Pupkin 03-07-2019 01:09 PM

I wonder what his issue was that turned everyone off at both the yearling sale and the 2 year old sale. He went really cheap at both sales. He actually had a good workout at the 2 year old sale and he still only sold for around $11,000. That is really cheap for a Union Rags with a good work. Horses like that usually go for at least $200,000 or higher. Some of those Union rags will even sell for $900,000 at the 2 year old sales. Maybe he is just small. He looked on the small side on the video. But that can be misleading sometimes. I have seen horses who appeared small on the video but who were actually not small.

Bogey 03-07-2019 01:26 PM

Florida Derby?

Kasept 03-07-2019 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogey (Post 1123077)
Florida Derby?

Would think Tesio to win in to the Preakness makes some sense..

moses 05-25-2019 01:55 PM

Not sure if this horse needs time off or a cutback or a drop in class or what.

blackthroatedwind 05-25-2019 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by moses (Post 1127048)
Not sure if this horse needs time off or a cutback or a drop in class or what.

Has he run since the Wood?

knickslions2 05-25-2019 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1127049)
Has he run since the Wood?

Ran at Churchill in allowance race about two weeks ago I think.

Rupert Pupkin 05-25-2019 03:25 PM

He ran today in a stakes race at Woodbine and ran terrible.

moses 05-25-2019 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1127049)
Has he run since the Wood?

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Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 1127052)
Ran at Churchill in allowance race about two weeks ago I think.

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 1127059)
He ran today in a stakes race at Woodbine and ran terrible.

Yup. He ran derby day and also ran today. Both races he jumped out to the lead and set moderate-to-slow fractions then faded in the stretch.

Dahoss 05-26-2019 11:00 AM

Another victim of the Alabama Stakes jinx. This poor horse never had a chance after he touted him.

Alabama Stakes 05-26-2019 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1127095)
Another victim of the Alabama Stakes jinx. This poor horse never had a chance after he touted him.

I touted him ? As I said , as a retired teamster I thought it was a post about the teamsters. I never even heard of that hoss before that. Then I asked how much they paid. So what the f are you talking about?


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