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TheSpyder 04-18-2018 05:16 PM

gronk buys into gronk
 
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2...by-horse-gronk

Hickory Hill Hoff 04-18-2018 06:24 PM

this horse doesn't belong in the field of 20

-BT- 04-19-2018 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff (Post 1108297)
this horse doesn't belong in the field of 20

but he will take a lot of dead :$::$::$::$:


-bt-

casp0555 04-19-2018 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by -BT- (Post 1108331)
but he will take a lot of dead :$::$::$


-bt-

you betcha :tro:

richard burch 04-19-2018 10:17 PM

Yeah! Brady is putting 500K on him.

Kitan 04-20-2018 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff (Post 1108297)
this horse doesn't belong in the field of 20

And who after him on the list (i.e. spots 21 and lower) belongs more than him?

Kasept 04-20-2018 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Kitan (Post 1108352)
And who after him on the list (i.e. spots 21 and lower) belongs more than him?

You're asking that with a straight face? While I get what Churchill is trying to cultivate with the Japan & Euro carve outs, ANY horse that has run respectably in the prep season belongs in the Derby ahead of Gronkowski.. Here's 6 to start with..

21. Combatant 32 (Winchell, Willis Horton) Steve Asmussen/Ricardo Santana ($350,000)
22. Instilled Regard 29 (Oxo Equine/Lawrence Best) Jerry Hollendorfer ($246,000)
-- Snapper Sinclair 22 (Bloom Racing) Steve Asmussen/$321,810 ~ American Turf or Pat Day Mile
23. $-Blended Citizen 22 (Greg Hall, SAYJAY Racing/Steve Young) Doug O’Neill/Kyle Frey ($159,644)
24. Reride 20 (Winchell) Steve Asmussen/$298,000
25. Dream Baby Dream 20 (Dream Baby Dream Racing) Steve Asmussen/$181,000
26. Restoring Hope 20 (Gary & Mary West) Bob Baffert/$100,000

ADJMK 04-20-2018 10:35 AM

Well he has already brought more attention to the race by the MSM than any of the others would. Prob more than any of the favs would. Just google Gronk the horse and look at all the print already. How many more people will watch the derby now and how much money is Gronk going to take and help the others prices ? And lets be honest none of the group left out would have much a chance of winning.

Kitan 04-21-2018 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1108353)
You're asking that with a straight face? While I get what Churchill is trying to cultivate with the Japan & Euro carve outs, ANY horse that has run respectably in the prep season belongs in the Derby ahead of Gronkowski.. Here's 6 to start with..

21. Combatant 32 (Winchell, Willis Horton) Steve Asmussen/Ricardo Santana ($350,000)
22. Instilled Regard 29 (Oxo Equine/Lawrence Best) Jerry Hollendorfer ($246,000)
-- Snapper Sinclair 22 (Bloom Racing) Steve Asmussen/$321,810 ~ American Turf or Pat Day Mile
23. $-Blended Citizen 22 (Greg Hall, SAYJAY Racing/Steve Young) Doug O’Neill/Kyle Frey ($159,644)
24. Reride 20 (Winchell) Steve Asmussen/$298,000
25. Dream Baby Dream 20 (Dream Baby Dream Racing) Steve Asmussen/$181,000
26. Restoring Hope 20 (Gary & Mary West) Bob Baffert/$100,000

I'm quite aware of who is next in line. Do you honestly believe these horses belong in the Derby?

Restoring Hope: Barn's 3rd or worse string, restricted maiden winner whose only run since then was in a G2 where realistically someone had to finish 3rd.
Dream Baby Dream: Struggled thrice to hit the board in N1X company. (You yourself could not have a straight face in suggesting he belongs)
Reride: Shipped across the world searching for a big payday since the connections knew he was not good enough to win any big local races (Derby included).
Blended Citizen: Best dirt try (from four attempts) was a well beaten 5th.
Combatant: Has had his fair share of chances to get points having already run in 5 points races. Has not improved as toughness of races have.

Even though he has been thoroughly disappointing in his last two, if he is now back on the trail then Instilled Regard, as a G1 winner, would be the only one for me that looks to be unlucky in missing out. However, the argument should be that he belongs rather than a horse like Hofburg, who was a maiden winner at the beginning of March and got the pace set-up to run into second in a terrible renewal of the Florida Derby.

FYI this has nothing to do with who I think will run well or poorly, talking purely objectively. I'm not saying he has any better chance than the others, but I would much rather see a mystery horse who is 4 for 4 on the AWT in races where the form has somewhat held up, whose dam is a half to a Stephen Foster winner, whose trainer is a BC Juvenile Dirt winner, etc. than horses who have had more than enough chances and in a regularly sized field (i.e. 14 runners) would be nowhere near the starting gate.

knickslions2 04-25-2018 09:54 AM

Good news for all you Gronk fans. Looks like he may be targeting the Belmont


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