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jnunan4759 03-14-2018 10:53 PM

Steve Corned Beef
 
stormcatsue told me you had a good Corned Beef recipe.

Wondering if you have a link or could post it up. I can do it OK, but always looking for a better idea.

Kasept 03-14-2018 11:24 PM

Glad you reminded me..

There is still time to save yourself from the humbling experience of a soggy, rubbery, tasteless corned beef tonight! Remember: Braise = Praise.. Back by demand, the Braised Corned Beef recipe, plus a bonus of my Corned Beef Glaze if you want to go the candied route..

BRAISED CORNED BEEF

4-5# flat cut corned beef brisket
1T Kitchen Bouquet
1T vegetable oil
1 onion, sliced
6 cloves garlic, sliced
4T water, beer or beef broth

Pre-heat oven 275. Brush corned beef with browning agent (Kitchen Bouquet). Sear corned beef in large skillet 5-8 min. on each side. Place seared brisket on roasting tray in baking dish. Arrange sliced onion, garlic on top and add liquid to bottom of dish. Foil tightly and bake 6 hours.

CORNED BEEF GLAZE

1/2 jar Red Currant Jelly
1.5 t lemon juice
1/4 t dijon mustard
1/4 c brown sugar

Blend. Coat cooked brisket. Bake 350, 20-30 min. coating additionally as desired


jms62 03-15-2018 06:45 AM

Sounds great!

My method

https://www.amazon.com/Tribest-Sousv...ide+water+oven

(Scroll down to cooking secction)

https://www.seriouseats.com/2011/03/...-food-lab.html

180 degrees for 10 hours, let sit overnight. Slice and steam

Rverge 03-15-2018 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1106777)
Glad you reminded me..

There is still time to save yourself from the humbling experience of a soggy, rubbery, tasteless corned beef tonight! Remember: Braise = Praise.. Back by demand, the Braised Corned Beef recipe, plus a bonus of my Corned Beef Glaze if you want to go the candied route..

BRAISED CORNED BEEF

4-5# flat cut corned beef brisket
1T Kitchen Bouquet
1T vegetable oil
1 onion, sliced
6 cloves garlic, sliced
4T water, beer or beef broth

Pre-heat oven 275. Brush corned beef with browning agent (Kitchen Bouquet). Sear corned beef in large skillet 5-8 min. on each side. Place seared brisket on roasting tray in baking dish. Arrange sliced onion, garlic on top and add liquid to bottom of dish. Foil tightly and bake 6 hours.

CORNED BEEF GLAZE

1/2 jar Red Currant Jelly
1.5 t lemon juice
1/4 t dijon mustard
1/4 c brown sugar

Blend. Coat cooked brisket. Bake 350, 20-30 min. coating additionally as desired


very nice!

Rverge 03-15-2018 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1106785)
Sounds great!

My method

https://www.amazon.com/Tribest-Sousv...ide+water+oven

(Scroll down to cooking secction)

https://www.seriouseats.com/2011/03/...-food-lab.html

180 degrees for 10 hours, let sit overnight. Slice and steam

and you like Sous Vide cooking style?

jms62 03-16-2018 04:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rverge (Post 1106823)
and you like Sous Vide cooking style?

Absolutely. I cook nearly all my protein this way.

jnunan4759 03-16-2018 12:39 PM

Thanks much Steve !

Interesting article jms. Always wondered why all my old relatives always had ham and cabbage. Now I know.

I'm going to roll with the SB recipe, got plenty of time to play some races Sat.

Rverge 03-17-2018 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1106824)
Absolutely. I cook nearly all my protein this way.

cool! i do not use so much. not even in the kitchens i worked. Keller uses it a lot. or he used to. and i do think the Troisgros bros started to use it for their Foie.

jms62 03-17-2018 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rverge (Post 1106886)
cool! i do not use so much. not even in the kitchens i worked. Keller uses it a lot. or he used to. and i do think the Troisgros bros started to use it for their Foie.

I have Keller’s book but it is far above my head and alot of ingredients are not obtainable for the layman. Been to alot of resurants that use it for chicken. It is magical for chicken. Simple Costco skinless deboned chicken breasts for 2 hours at 150 is something I have several times a week. Again recipe from SeriousEats.

jnunan4759 03-17-2018 08:15 PM

Well, it was good. I violated the recipe and put a can of beer in there. Turned out rare, I had a 4# brisket. Could have let it go for 7 to 7 1/2 hours. Maybe the added liquid skewed that. You do have to remove it and let it rest. I waited 20 min. and the fat was not fully congealed. Should have waited 45 minutes. Ate dinner and let it sit and now it is perfect for sandwiches tomorrow.

Taste was excellent. So tender you could cut with a fork. Searing it kept all those nice juices in. Really good.

I think the beer was a plus. The alcohol steams off in the cooking, so it's not like boozy corned beef. It's long gone. However, I would imagine different beers or ales could enhance the cooking.

But I did think that skewed the cooking time. Steve said 4T of liquid, but if I am cooking something at home and it runs out of liquid, I'm in big trouble. I'm in a world of trouble. If I got smoke or smell in the kitchen, my life turns horrible. So I try to err on the non-smoke side.

Rverge 03-18-2018 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jnunan4759 (Post 1106914)
Well, it was good. I violated the recipe and put a can of beer in there. Turned out rare, I had a 4# brisket. Could have let it go for 7 to 7 1/2 hours. Maybe the added liquid skewed that. You do have to remove it and let it rest. I waited 20 min. and the fat was not fully congealed. Should have waited 45 minutes. Ate dinner and let it sit and now it is perfect for sandwiches tomorrow.

Taste was excellent. So tender you could cut with a fork. Searing it kept all those nice juices in. Really good.

I think the beer was a plus. The alcohol steams off in the cooking, so it's not like boozy corned beef. It's long gone. However, I would imagine different beers or ales could enhance the cooking.

But I did think that skewed the cooking time. Steve said 4T of liquid, but if I am cooking something at home and it runs out of liquid, I'm in big trouble. I'm in a world of trouble. If I got smoke or smell in the kitchen, my life turns horrible. So I try to err on the non-smoke side.

Corned beef rare?? beer would or more liquid would not skewed. may be next time take cover off and let it brown just a bit. can always glaze it with honey-mustard mix

jnunan4759 03-18-2018 05:16 PM

OK, Now today it is just perfect. Had a great cold sandwich. Taste and tenderness was right on.

jnunan4759 03-15-2020 10:45 AM

Corned Beef and Cabbage
 
Steve, where is the link to your recipe ? Made it last year and got great accolades. It was great.

jms62 03-15-2020 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jnunan4759 (Post 1135889)
Steve, where is the link to your recipe ? Made it last year and got great accolades. It was great.

https://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/...ts-recipe.html

No need to brine your own just buy store bought and skip to step 2

Dahoss 03-15-2020 11:43 AM

The search function here is great. Here’s your thread from 2 years ago

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sho...ghlight=Corned

jnunan4759 03-15-2020 01:05 PM

Thanks for link Hoss. Just what I was looking for. Luckily I did get a Corned Beef Brisket and 2 heads of Cabbage yesterday morning. Going to try tomorrow for some potatoes and carrots, were sold out.

Guiness is good as a beer add. I also like adding a shot or two of whiskey. If you don't drink, don't worry. The alcohol is evaporated in the cooking. The barley, hops, rye make good flavor.

knickslions2 03-15-2020 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jnunan4759 (Post 1135893)
Thanks for link Hoss. Just what I was looking for. Luckily I did get a Corned Beef Brisket and 2 heads of Cabbage yesterday morning. Going to try tomorrow for some potatoes and carrots, were sold out.

Guiness is good as a beer add. I also like adding a shot or two of whiskey. If you don't drink, don't worry. The alcohol is evaporated in the cooking. The barley, hops, rye make good flavor.

Shame to waste the nectar of the Gods in food lol. Guinness is great for cooking

jnunan4759 03-17-2020 12:18 AM

OK, going back in. Got the CB and Cabbage, but not the carrots and potatoes. May try at the store tomorrow. Did all the marinade and ready to go in the morning. Going to sear and braise. Not really different, but going to sear in a wok. Don't think it makes a difference. I guess it is my Chinese background. I'm an Irish-American from Philly but have a great Chinese wife.

moses 03-17-2020 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jnunan4759 (Post 1135976)
OK, going back in. Got the CB and Cabbage, but not the carrots and potatoes. May try at the store tomorrow. Did all the marinade and ready to go in the morning. Going to sear and braise. Not really different, but going to sear in a wok. Don't think it makes a difference. I guess it is my Chinese background. I'm an Irish-American from Philly but have a great Chinese wife.

The only potential issue with the wok that I see would be if the base isn’t big enough...but it likely will be.

One of these days I’m going to have to try one of these recipes. Really want to try the crab cake recipe...but my wife is allergic to shellfish. Maybe this one. My dad’s mom was Irish-American and used to make this multiple times per year.

jnunan4759 03-17-2020 11:01 PM

Have to give another cap off to Steve's recipe today. With all outward social festivities off, all quarantined activities focused at home and the recipe came through again.

When I got the meat a fork wouldn't even go into it, it was so tough. By the end, the most tender stuff you ever ate. Braise=Praise.

Thanks Steve.


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