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Kitan 09-24-2017 04:15 PM

Mike Smith - hot and cold
 
Big Money Mike Smith... What was that ride on Abel Tasman? Better yet, was he so exhausted from the travel to Charles Town that he couldn't be bothered to ride out to the wire in a 300k race?

jms62 09-24-2017 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Kitan (Post 1100011)
Big Money Mike Smith... What was that ride on Abel Tasman? Better yet, was he so exhausted from the travel to Charles Town that he couldn't be bothered to ride out to the wire in a 300k race?

Maybe Abel Tasman was simply a workout? No one could think launching from were he did on the PARX rail was a move that could win.

Kasept 09-24-2017 04:55 PM

Watched Cotillion with Baffert who is now a little concerned how to solve the Abel Tasman quandary of breaking slow and rushing full throttle into contention. Said once she gets going the way she did, she becomes hard to handle, so he understands Smith just having to let her roll.

Will see what he thinks tomorrow 11:30 on ATR including consideration of F&M Sprint v. Distaff.

cakes44 09-24-2017 08:44 PM

Smith is a $$ rider that can get a little more out of many horses, but he basically goes two ways...last to first, or first to first. If he's stuck in between, you'll see some odd rides.

Just my opinion and I'm sure I'll get roasted for it.

knickslions2 09-24-2017 11:28 PM

I think he had the best horse by far in that race and could have waited. However I'm 45 years from being jockey so who knows but think
It was s bad ride

Indian Charlie 09-25-2017 12:23 AM

I'm convinced that to be a jockey that you have to secretly fail a test that finds out your intelligence.

Any really good rides are purely accidental.

Kasept 09-25-2017 08:41 AM

It's ridiculous to label Smith doing what he could under the scenario of Abel Tasman running off as 'a bad ride'.

jms62 09-25-2017 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1100062)
It's ridiculous to label Smith doing what he could under the scenario of Abel Tasman running off as 'a bad ride'.

I agree I wasn't aware Money Mike had no control of the situation.

blackthroatedwind 09-25-2017 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1100062)
It's ridiculous to label Smith doing what he could under the scenario of Abel Tasman running off as 'a bad ride'.

It's probably more ridiculous to defend it.

Kasept 09-25-2017 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1100064)
It's probably more ridiculous to defend it.

Right.. Because horses are race cars that can be controlled with brakes and a steering wheel.

blackthroatedwind 09-25-2017 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1100066)
Right.. Because horses are race cars that can be controlled with brakes and a steering wheel.


You aren't really going to start with all the clichés, are you?

The ride was poor. So was the ride in the CCA Oaks.

Alabama Stakes 09-25-2017 10:31 AM

He is not the first to find out about a dead rail the hard way. He adjusted andmade sure West Coast was out there in the 4 path. I think the plan was probably blow by them and get outside for the stretch run. If you bet on Abel Talisman were you saying ....no mike no! ? Or were you thinking... wow what a filly ?

Kasept 09-25-2017 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1100068)
You aren't really going to start with all the clichés, are you?

The ride was poor. So was the ride in the CCA Oaks.

I just don't count reacting to her running off as a ride decision..

But, Baffert did say something just now that was interesting which was Smith thought afterwards he might have been better off staying wide then taking the opening inside which particularly set her off..

cakes44 09-25-2017 08:22 PM

Wouldn't a runoff go and take the lead by 3-4+ lengths? Why do his "runoffs" only hustle to just near the lead and barely in the clear?

RHT2004 09-25-2017 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 1100101)
Wouldn't a runoff go and take the lead by 3-4+ lengths? Why do his "runoffs" only hustle to just near the lead and barely in the clear?

God this is silly.


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