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flifishri 08-18-2016 05:44 PM

Alabama!
 
OK peeps! Who can beat SONGBIRD and why? See you Saturday. The 4starD is a great matchup. Thoughts?

RHT2004 08-18-2016 06:56 PM

Half the field. She's good, but not great like many people proclaim. She's run one fast race. She's beat one good horse. Taking her at 1-9 going the longest she ever has, with other speed signed on seems silly.

Rudeboyelvis 08-18-2016 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RHT2004 (Post 1074047)
Half the field. She's good, but not great like many people proclaim. She's run one fast race. She's beat one good horse. Taking her at 1-9 going the longest she ever has, with other speed signed on seems silly.

She's very reminiscent to me in a way, of Careless Jewel coming into the Alabama in 2009. We know how that turned out. I'd add a couple if there is room on the ticket to try to beat her, but standing against seems silly*.

*Full Disclosure - I left Careless Jewel off for the exact sames reasons you don't like Songbird in here - take it from experience, Joe ;)

RHT2004 08-18-2016 07:47 PM

She reminds me of Plum Pretty. Plum Pretty was better though.

Rudeboyelvis 08-19-2016 09:40 AM

I was more comparing the circumstances than the horse-

1. Careless Jewel's competition leading up to the race was not stellar (though no argument Songbird is much more accomplished).
2. She was all front end.
3. She did not have a 10 panel pedigree.

She not only relished the extra distance, but improved 4 lengths in the stretch run. I can see the same scenario tomorrow.

At this point I'm using Family Tree and Going for Broke with her as both can shade a wicked early pace and not lose touch. Family Tree looks like she could be sitting on a big move up in class. I think Go Maggie Go is going to be a pace victim.

Alabama Stakes 08-19-2016 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by RHT2004 (Post 1074051)
She reminds me of Plum Pretty. Plum Pretty was better though.

Don't be ridiculous

knickslions2 08-19-2016 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 1074064)
I was more comparing the circumstances than the horse-

1. Careless Jewel's competition leading up to the race was not stellar (though no argument Songbird is much more accomplished).
2. She was all front end.
3. She did not have a 10 panel pedigree.

She not only relished the extra distance, but improved 4 lengths in the stretch run. I can see the same scenario tomorrow.

At this point I'm using Family Tree and Going for Broke with her as both can shade a wicked early pace and not lose touch. Family Tree looks like she could be sitting on a big move up in class. I think Go Maggie Go is going to be a pace victim.

Going for broke is very interesting in this race. May add with songbird

Indian Charlie 08-19-2016 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1074065)
Don't be ridiculous

Obviously he is trying to be contrarian.

Alabama Stakes 08-19-2016 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 1074158)
Obviously he is trying to be contrarian.

I meant about plum pretty being better than this hoss.... Cmon.

RHT2004 08-19-2016 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1074163)
I meant about plum pretty being better than this hoss.... Cmon.

She was faster.

Alabama Stakes 08-19-2016 07:47 PM

I'll see you tomorrow hot shot..... Hope you're gonna be thirsty .

As luck has it , My wife is here which might save you, but it's not a given.

RHT2004 08-19-2016 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1074172)
I'll see you tomorrow hot shot..... Hope you're gonna be thirsty .

As luck has it , My wife is here which might save you, but it's not a given.

I told you 2 weeks ago im not wasting my time and getting arrested. Its not my fault your a coward and refused a contest.

Indian Charlie 08-20-2016 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by RHT2004 (Post 1074168)
She was faster.

And until the bcc of last year, Materiality was faster than American Pharoah.


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