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Danzig 09-17-2015 10:38 AM
factchecking the debate
 
http://www.factcheck.org/2015/09/fac...blican-debate/

too bad that they don't have someone right there to blow a horn when someone says something incorrect.

bigrun 09-17-2015 11:31 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1043313)
http://www.factcheck.org/2015/09/fac...blican-debate/

too bad that they don't have someone right there to blow a horn when someone says something incorrect.

You would need an orchestra of trumpets to keep up with the b/s:D...but it was fun watching...

OldDog 09-17-2015 04:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1043313)
http://www.factcheck.org/2015/09/fac...blican-debate/

too bad that they don't have someone right there to blow a horn when someone says something incorrect.
Quote:
◾Carly Fiorina said that the Planned Parenthood videos released by an anti-abortion group showed “a fully formed fetus on the table, its heart beating, its legs kicking while someone says we have to keep it alive to harvest its brain.” But that scene isn’t in any of the videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rooKH-P9qU

http://thefederalist.com/2015/09/17/...s-deny-exists/

Danzig 09-17-2015 09:31 PM
How interesting that this is the one thing from the article that you fastened upon...



http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...-watch-planne/

that's from politifact, that rates fiorinas claim as mostly false.
this article discusses her claims, and what all they found, including that pp has no such video. no one has such a video showing what she claimed.

GenuineRisk 09-18-2015 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1043347)
How interesting that this is the one thing from the article that you fastened upon...



http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...-watch-planne/

that's from politifact, that rates fiorinas claim as mostly false.
this article discusses her claims, and what all they found, including that pp has no such video. no one has such a video showing what she claimed.
The "Center for Medical Progress"'s truthfulness is right up there with PETA's horse racing "sting" video. Yeesh. How people can be so incredibly dumb as to think that hearing a voiceover during footage means that's the actual scenario the person is describing is mind boggling (let alone "someone said they saw it happen, therefore it happened"). Seriously, "stock footage" people. Look it up.

Speaking of poor uses of stock footage:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...east-Asia.html

GenuineRisk 09-18-2015 09:28 AM
It's the vaccine part that really got my goat. Shame on them.

OldDog 09-18-2015 03:15 PM
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Watch the full video for yourself. It does, in fact, show a fully formed fetus, heart beating and legs kicking. And it shows this while Holly O’Donnell, a former organ harvester who worked for StemExpress at a Planned Parenthood affiliate, graphically discuss the harvesting of a brain from a baby whose heart was beating.

. . . a baby born alive at the same age as the baby whose face and head was cut open to harvest the brain.
Q: Does Planned Parenthood harvest organs from live fetuses?

Danzig 09-18-2015 05:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by OldDog (Post 1043369)
Q: Does Planned Parenthood harvest organs from live fetuses?
I have no idea
[quote=GenuineRisk;1043354]It's the vaccine part that really got my goat. Shame on them.[/QUOTE

No joke. Especially doctors who should know better.

bigrun 09-18-2015 06:23 PM
A 'good' Trump story..Got this from a friend..


Quote:
My niece related a story from the early 90's when she was a new seasonal mail carrier.

She was delivering mail and one stop wasTrump's fathers place in Queens. He noticed she didn't have on the uniform shirt and asked her why. She was a skinny shy little blond kid at the time and she told him that she just started and they didn't give her one.

He said he was going to call them, that if she was working for them, then she should have the uniform. When she got back to the PO that afternoon, they made sure she got the shirt.

GenuineRisk 09-18-2015 06:24 PM
The first polio vaccine was developed using fetal liver tissue.

Rubella vaccine
Chicken pox vaccine
Shingles vaccine

All developed using fetal tissue. Which is strictly regulated by the government. No clinic is making money off of tissue. They may charge to recoup the costs of processing and transport, which is why the amounts quoted in the "sting" videos for tissue were $30-$100.

Studies now are on whether it can be used to treat retinitis pigmentosa, which causes blindness. It's gradually being supplanted by stem cells, but is still useful in many areas of research.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/17/health...sue-explainer/

bigrun 09-18-2015 06:42 PM
So what, everybody knows that:p


Trump doesn't challenge anti-Muslim questioner at event..


http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/17/politi...ire/index.html

Danzig 09-18-2015 08:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 1043398)
The first polio vaccine was developed using fetal liver tissue.

Rubella vaccine
Chicken pox vaccine
Shingles vaccine

All developed using fetal tissue. Which is strictly regulated by the government. No clinic is making money off of tissue. They may charge to recoup the costs of processing and transport, which is why the amounts quoted in the "sting" videos for tissue were $30-$100.

Studies now are on whether it can be used to treat retinitis pigmentosa, which causes blindness. It's gradually being supplanted by stem cells, but is still useful in many areas of research.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/17/health...sue-explainer/


Saw the house voted to defund pp. Ridiculous. But, hey, who cares, its mostly women getting affected.

somerfrost 09-20-2015 10:57 AM
Another government shut down looming...let the blame game start. Science will save humanity, unless overwhelmed by religious fanatics.

Danzig 09-20-2015 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by somerfrost (Post 1043539)
Another government shut down looming...let the blame game start. Science will save humanity, unless overwhelmed by religious fanatics.
I hope science and knowledge wins out....and then I think of the barbarians and the great library.

Some people say why are countries beginning to out pace us....don't we lead industrial nations insofar as religion??

bigrun 09-20-2015 01:58 PM
The game is rigged, even for the Donald: How the GOP can block his nomination.


http://www.salon.com/2015/09/20/how_...ium=socialflow

Danzig 10-16-2015 01:37 PM
http://www.factcheck.org/2015/10/fac...cratic-debate/

fact check on the democratic debate....

bigrun 10-16-2015 02:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1045388)
http://www.factcheck.org/2015/10/fac...cratic-debate/

fact check on the democratic debate....

Quote:
Clinton claimed that “we lose 90 people a day from gun violence.” That’s true, but only a third of those deaths are from homicides.

What are the other 2/3 deaths from?

Danzig 10-16-2015 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by bigrun (Post 1045390)
What are the other 2/3 deaths from?
dunno..accidental discharge? suicide? thought someone was a deer, self defense?

bigrun 10-16-2015 02:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1045391)
dunno..accidental discharge? suicide? thought someone was a deer, self defense?

Ok, sounds about right...but aren't all those "gun violence"?

Danzig 10-16-2015 03:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigrun (Post 1045393)
Ok, sounds about right...but aren't all those "gun violence"?
i'm not thinking it would be considered gun 'violence' if you were cleaning your gun and it went off and shot you.


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