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Offshore Belmont odds

Looking at 5Dimes and Bookmaker.

Best odds:
Am Pharoah to win: -130 at 5D
Am Pharoah to not win: +115 at Bookmaker

Other horses to win:

Frosted 5-1 at 5D
Materiality 5.8-1 at BM
Mubtaahij 12.5-1 at 5D
MadefromLucky 15-1 at BM
Tale of Verve 20-1 at 5D
Keen Ice 24.5-1 at BM
Frammento 32-1 at both

Changes are noted in color. Blue for higher odds, Red for lower.

Best odds:
Am Pharoah to win: -120 at 5D
Am Pharoah to not win: +100 at 5D
(Bookmaker took down its 'AP won't win' bet.)

Other horses to win:

Frosted 5-1 at 5D
Materiality 6-1 at BM
Mubtaahij 13-1 at BM
MadefromLucky 17.5-1 at BM
Tale of Verve 20-1 at 5D
Keen Ice 26-1 at BM
Frammento 35.5-1 at BM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunbar (Post 1029631)

Changes are noted in color. Blue for higher odds, Red for lower.

Best odds:
Am Pharoah to win: -120 at 5D (that's 0.83-1)
Am Pharoah to not win: +100 at 5D
(Bookmaker took down its 'AP won't win' bet.)

Other horses to win:

Frosted 5-1 at 5D
Materiality 6-1 at BM
Mubtaahij 13-1 at BM
MadefromLucky 17.5-1 at BM
Tale of Verve 20-1 at 5D
Keen Ice 26-1 at BM
Frammento 35.5-1 at BM

The effective "takeout" with those odds is 8.5%. If you convert to Belmont's 16%, it'd look like this:

Am Phar 3-5 (but closer to 4-5)
Frosted 4-1 (but closer to 9-2)
Materiality 5-1
Mubtaahij 11-1
Madefromlucky 15-1
Keen Ice 22-1
Tale of Verve 17-1
Frammento 30-1

I don't necessarily like AP in this race unless it's in the slop, but I'll need 10-1 to try to beat him. Might take a shot with Madefromlucky.