Derby Toss
 

Name one horse at relative low odds that you will not be including in any of your multi-race exotics or the top rung of trifecta/superfecta wagers.

For me, it's simple.




Carpe Diem

For me, it's never "simple," -- it takes a lot of effort for me to talk myself off a horse. But given what I have seen and read so far, it's Mubtaahij.

Far Right will be the lowest of the eight that have no chance to be on any ticket regardless of post position.

that's who i would exclude.

Materiality and Frosted...

I'm not saying they have no chance. It's just who I'm trying to beat when narrowing down tickets.

Frosted

it really hurts me when you say things like this Thomas

toss toss auto-toss

Tencendur
Ocho

not far behind

war story
bolo
firing line

-bt-

Far right and Carp diem will not be on my tickets. Horse with zero % shot to finish in top 4 would be Stanford

Upstart

El Kabeir

Stanford, but he's a longshot.

Highest price I will probably toss, though one of my partners will try to put me in a choke hold- Carpe Diem

Firing Line

Carpe Diem and Mubtaahij.

Me too.

Materiality & It'saknockout

+1

American Pharoah and Materiality

why the exclusiong of frosted, he's one of the ones i was leaning toward?

It's easy to say Frosted but I'll take Dortmund.

Materiality : not on a curse but questions on pace, foundation, never shipped out of FL, no slam dunk pedigree, slow come home in FL derby