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jpops757 10-12-2006 11:51 AM

Retirement and breeding
 
With the prime breeding time is to cordinate the birthing earlier in the year. Why cant a stud be used at the track in the down time. Im sure the soundness is the big issue but if sound is there another drawback? Some of the articles I have read where most of the top studs are going to cutback to around 130-150 covers.

sumitas 10-12-2006 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by jpops757
With the prime breeding time is to cordinate the birthing earlier in the year. Why cant a stud be used at the track in the down time. Im sure the soundness is the big issue but if sound is there another drawback? Some of the articles I have read where most of the top studs are going to cutback to around 130-150 covers.

you could never get them in racing shape...i'd like to see books at no more than 100...spread the breeding around to all the boys.

LARHAGE 10-12-2006 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by sumitas
you could never get them in racing shape...i'd like to see books at no more than 100...spread the breeding around to all the boys.

Not to mention the complete maniac they would be around the track. I don't think the average Joe is aware of how tough and agressive breeding stallions get. It's a VERY dangerous job handling them, just the liability around the stable area would be a deterrant!

Cajungator26 10-12-2006 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by LARHAGE
Not to mention the complete maniac they would be around the track. I don't think the average Joe is aware of how tough and agressive breeding stallions get. It's a VERY dangerous job handling them, just the liability around the stable area would be a deterrant!

I worked at a breeding farm (Trakehners) one summer as an intern, and the stallions are night and day different when it's breeding time... VERY VERY aggressive. I can only imagine how they would react out on the track. :eek:

Downthestretch55 10-12-2006 12:46 PM

I could be very wrong on this, but it's apples and oranges.
Once they're off the track for breeding puposes, with all the advertising and other considerations...they're not running anymore.
Does anyone know of one that's come out of the shed and got back into training?
I don't.

Cajungator26 10-12-2006 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Downthestretch55
I could be very wrong on this, but it's apples and oranges.
Once they're off the track for breeding puposes, with all the advertising and other considerations...they're not running anymore.
Does anyone know of one that's come out of the shed and got back into training?
I don't.

Yes, Precisionist did.

Downthestretch55 10-12-2006 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Yes, Precisionist did.

thanks Cajun,
Plenty rare.

Cajungator26 10-12-2006 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Downthestretch55
thanks Cajun,
Plenty rare.

They sure are...

paisjpq 10-12-2006 01:01 PM

plus studs that are racing fit often have a lower libido...and 100 mares would keep him very very busy. The breeding 'season' is about 140 days...each mare may require multiple trips to the shed to get confirmed in foal...during the height of the season he may breed four mares a day...6am, 10am, 2 pm, 6 pm...and some farms even go farther and have 10 pm covers when needed. The stallion can get pretty run down by the end of the season...no way he would be able to go back and run and be successfull.

Travis Stone 10-12-2006 01:38 PM

Would you want to go back to running everyday after getting action a few times each day?

FlBred 10-12-2006 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
plus studs that are racing fit often have a lower libido...and 100 mares would keep him very very busy. The breeding 'season' is about 140 days...each mare may require multiple trips to the shed to get confirmed in foal...during the height of the season he may breed four mares a day...6am, 10am, 2 pm, 6 pm...and some farms even go farther and have 10 pm covers when needed. The stallion can get pretty run down by the end of the season...no way he would be able to go back and run and be successfull.

I can relate, usually a typical weekend for me. The last thing I want to do is go race afterwards!

Downthestretch55 10-12-2006 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by FlBred
I can relate, usually a typical weekend for me. The last thing I want to do is go race afterwards!

FlBred,
The big difference is that they pay to bring you "girlfriends".
So you no longer have to cruise the strip asking the chickitas if they need a ride home.
"Honey, need a date tonight?"

Nah...I'm booked.

Pointg5 10-12-2006 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Downthestretch55
I could be very wrong on this, but it's apples and oranges.
Once they're off the track for breeding puposes, with all the advertising and other considerations...they're not running anymore.
Does anyone know of one that's come out of the shed and got back into training?
I don't.


Car Dealer and Froggywentacourtin...

Downthestretch55 10-12-2006 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Pointg5
Car Dealer and Froggywentacourtin...

Doo dahh, doo dahh.

"Let me check with the manager and I'll be right back, I could get fired for this."
Dealah, dealah...all da day long.

Antitrust32 10-12-2006 02:24 PM

Artax went back into training after breeding but I dont think he made it into a race before he was retired... again...

I think Michael Jordan did the same.

Bold Reasoning 10-12-2006 07:22 PM

I think D. Wayne Lukas raced Spain in foal. She brought down Serena's Song's money record!:)


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