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Soaring Softly 12-06-2014 12:11 PM

Keeneland Moves the Bluegrass Back to 4 Weeks Out
 
Keeneland has re-scheduled the Bluegrass on the calendar to be run the same day as the Wood Memorial and the Santa Anita Derby.

http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/edito...e.cgi?id=47778

I remember when, back before the Wood was moved back to its current position, the NTRA used to run a National Pick 3 with the Wood, the Bluegrass, and the Arky. As I recall, that was a pretty popular bet, nation-wide.

I'm wonder if, with this move by Keeneland, they might consider staging the same thing again using the Wood, Bluegraass, and Santa Anita Derby.

I for one would love that. I hope they at least think about it.

helicopter11 12-06-2014 12:22 PM

I agree. The national Pick 3 and Pick 4 and even the Mana Pick 5 were great bets and often times would pay very well. I would love if they bring that back.

booner 12-06-2014 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by helicopter11 (Post 1008239)
I agree. The national Pick 3 and Pick 4 and even the Magna Pick 5 were great bets and often times would pay very well. I would love if they bring that back.

I miss this one. Had a blast playing it each week during the cold months.....

tanner12oz 12-06-2014 05:29 PM

Stress test for BC cup? Expect very large crowds if the weather holds

South Beach Luv 12-06-2014 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by tanner12oz (Post 1008306)
Stress test for BC cup? Expect very large crowds if the weather holds

With them capping ticket sales to the BC this day will be far more crowded

NTamm1215 12-06-2014 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by South Beach Luv (Post 1008311)
With them capping ticket sales to the BC this day will be far more crowded

Moving it up a week will also make no difference at all crowd-wise. Blue Grass day is packed no matter what, and it'd be hard to imagine the weather being better and the crowd being larger than it was this year.

saratogadew 12-07-2014 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 1008313)
Moving it up a week will also make no difference at all crowd-wise. Blue Grass day is packed no matter what, and it'd be hard to imagine the weather being better and the crowd being larger than it was this year.

I was there for Bluegrass 2012. I don't mind crowds at all but that day was over the top. I'm used to the big lines at the windows, concessions, and bathrooms. I just go with the flow and expect it on big days. Keeneland's problem is they allow all of the aisles to be jammed up with people. I had grandstand seats and just to get through all of the people camped out in the aisles was quite frustrating. It would take 15 minutes to work your way through all of the people just to get to the normal 15 minute betting window or bathroom lines. I love Keeneland and will go back on a non Bluegrass weekend.

saratogadew 12-07-2014 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by saratogadew (Post 1008326)
I was there for Bluegrass 2012. I don't mind crowds at all but that day was over the top. I'm used to the big lines at the windows, concessions, and bathrooms. I just go with the flow and expect it on big days. Keeneland's problem is they allow all of the aisles to be jammed up with people. I had grandstand seats and just to get through all of the people camped out in the aisles was quite frustrating. It would take 15 minutes to work your way through all of the people just to get to the normal 15 minute betting window or bathroom lines. I love Keeneland and will go back on a non Bluegrass weekend.

To anyone who complained about NYRA and the Belmont Stakes day exit. Get yourself a grandstand ticket on Bluegrass day. You"ll be longing for that shining star in Elmont, NY all day!

South Beach Luv 12-07-2014 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by saratogadew (Post 1008326)
I was there for Bluegrass 2012. I don't mind crowds at all but that day was over the top. I'm used to the big lines at the windows, concessions, and bathrooms. I just go with the flow and expect it on big days. Keeneland's problem is they allow all of the aisles to be jammed up with people. I had grandstand seats and just to get through all of the people camped out in the aisles was quite frustrating. It would take 15 minutes to work your way through all of the people just to get to the normal 15 minute betting window or bathroom lines. I love Keeneland and will go back on a non Bluegrass weekend.

That's why I get a seat, eat before I sit down, and bet from my phone and only get up if I need to use the bathroom or really want to see a horse in the paddock.

We have went to the last three Bluegrass Days, not sure now about this year. If Judy the Beauty is going in the Madison that will probably be a game changer.

tanner12oz 12-07-2014 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 1008313)
Moving it up a week will also make no difference at all crowd-wise. Blue Grass day is packed no matter what, and it'd be hard to imagine the weather being better and the crowd being larger than it was this year.

umm its opening weekend which is also a huge weekend..your saying attendance won't change packing 2 monster attendance days into 1 ?

tanner12oz 12-07-2014 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by saratogadew (Post 1008329)
To anyone who complained about NYRA and the Belmont Stakes day exit. Get yourself a grandstand ticket on Bluegrass day. You"ll be longing for that shining star in Elmont, NY all day!

I've done both and didn't gave ANY issues at keeneland vs. The Belmont which was a total disaster

Kasept 12-07-2014 03:18 PM

Opening Day is typically 20k with opening weekend luring 60k.

Blue Grass Day attendance has been 33k, 33k, 37k, 39k, 40k the last 5 years.

NTamm1215 12-07-2014 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by tanner12oz (Post 1008377)
umm its opening weekend which is also a huge weekend..your saying attendance won't change packing 2 monster attendance days into 1 ?

No. It will be packed on the new date, a la a normal Blue Grass day and will still be crowded the following week.

Your comparison to Breeders' Cup has little to no bearing as attendance is clearly going to be managed (limited ticket sales) by the BC for those days.

saratogadew 12-08-2014 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 1008413)
No. It will be packed on the new date, a la a normal Blue Grass day and will still be crowded the following week.

Your comparison to Breeders' Cup has little to no bearing as attendance is clearly going to be managed (limited ticket sales) by the BC for those days.

I agree with you that ticket sales will be "managed". We should not confuse the verbiage "limited ticket sales" to mean a low or controllable amount.

ghartman02 12-30-2014 01:49 PM

Only Fly in the ointment is if UK plays in Indy that day. That may diminish the crowd a bit. Bad weather may as well. Used to attend that day and had some nice days, ok days, and awful days. In 2007, I think it was 38 degrees and snowing. As a fan of The Ashland, I wish they would have moved that up to Friday. Having said all that, I hope the BlueGrass regains it's once prominent Derby Prep Position.

tanner12oz 12-30-2014 07:46 PM

I noticed its Easter weekend which might affect numbers. I'll probably be going again this year but might be disowned by my family in the process


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