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Kasept 11-06-2014 04:09 AM

11/6: Gulfstream West ($47k P5 C/O)
 
GULFSTREAM WEST


POST-SCRATCHES


5th: CLM/N2L, 3+, 1m (Rainbow P6, P3, DD)

Best Value: #6 Chevron Light 8-1 5th
Next Best: #3 Supreme Privlege 3-1 WON ($4.60)
Exotics Use: #9 Ludicrous Speed 5-1 4th
Super Add: #1 City Mudd 6-1 6th


6th: OC/C, 3+, 8.5f-T (P5, P3, DD)

$47k P5 C/O starts here..

This is a terrific group with a pace scenario that looks uncertain. Wolfson reaches for go-to Zayas (14 for 26 together at Calder '13-14!) on Heiko while Love Rules All is first time for assassin Navarro. Shock Leader is the class here having faced top Northeastern foes all summer, but Hills' other horse, Just Foolin Around, is a steadily developing 4yo that competes at a price with a projectible forward move. El Grand Jefe, Bathazar and War Classic have been banging heads with each other in So. Florida and all appear possible. As I said, terrific group..

Most Likely: #3 Shock Leader 6-1 3rd
Next Best: #6 Heiko 7-2 2nd
Best Value: #1 Just Foolin Around 10-1 4th
Exotics Use: #2 El Jefe Grande 5-1 WON ($12.00)


7th: CLM/N2L, 3+, 7f (P4, P3, DD)

Most Likely: #9 Crown Distinction 9-2 WON ($9.40)
Next Best: #7 World Changer 6-1 -
Best Value: #8 Afleet Accompli 12-1 3rd
Exotics Use: #1 Wildcatpleasures 3-1 2nd


8th: CLM/N2L, 3+, 7.5f-T (P3, DD)

Most problematic test in the sequence..

Best Value: #10 My Storm Trooper 8-1 8th
Next Best: #7 Caminito 6-1 2nd
Exotics Use: #6 Rickashea 4-1 WON ($8.00)
Super Add: #4 Overton Square 12-1 3rd


9th: OC/N2X, 3+, 7f (DD)

Treacherous feature includes any number of in/out types as noted by interruptions in training or form cycle. One exception is Noble Prince who likes it at Miami Gardens and may just keep going if unencumbered during the early furlongs. Big question here is if Dad'z Laugh is close to right at all. Summer was a fiasco and worktab full of holes, but never out exacta at Calder and could inherit lead from Noble Prince if 7th panel proves too much for that one..

Best Value: #6 Noble Prince 10-1 2nd
Next Best: #7 Defense Article 8-1
Exotics Use: #9 Dad'z Laugh 3-1
Super Add: #4 Start Jumping 5-1 4th


10th: MCLM/$35k, F&M-3+, 1m-T (Super Hi-5)

Very tough finale with perhaps 9 of the 12 possible for diploma..

Best Value: #2 Famous Sting 6-1 5th
Next Best: #1 Austa 4-1 4th
Exotics Use: #4 Red Parasol 3-1 2nd
Super Add: #10 Imakittensjoy 10-1 6th
Hi-5 Play: #9 Starship Scarlett 12-1 WON ($23.00)


<$75 P5 Grid:

6: 3 (A), 1-6 (B), 2-5-7 (C)
7: 9 (A), 7-8 (B), 1-6-2 (C)
8: 7-10 (A), 4-6 (B), 1-5 (C)
9: 6 (A), 7-9 (B), 1-3-4 (C)
10: 2 (A), 1-4-9-10 (B), 5-6-7-12 (C)

All A Entries

1 $0.50 pick P5: 3 with 9 with 7,10 with 6 with 2 - $1.00

A's with One B

2 $0.50 pick P5: 1,6 with 9 with 7,10 with 6 with 2 - $2.00
3 $0.50 pick P5: 3 with 7,8 with 7,10 with 6 with 2 - $2.00
4 $0.50 pick P5: 3 with 9 with 4,6 with 6 with 2 - $1.00
5 $0.50 pick P5: 3 with 9 with 7,10 with 7,9 with 2 - $2.00
6 $0.50 pick P5: 3 with 9 with 7,10 with 6 with 1,4,9,10 - $4.00

A's with Two B's

7 $0.50 pick P5: 1,6 with 7,8 with 7,10 with 6 with 2 - $4.00
8 $0.50 pick P5: 1,6 with 9 with 4,6 with 6 with 2 - $2.00
9 $0.50 pick P5: 1,6 with 9 with 7,10 with 7,9 with 2 - $4.00
10 $0.50 pick P5: 1,6 with 9 with 7,10 with 6 with 1,4,9,10 - $8.00
11 $0.50 pick P5: 3 with 7,8 with 4,6 with 6 with 2 - $2.00
12 $0.50 pick P5: 3 with 7,8 with 7,10 with 7,9 with 2 - $4.00
13 $0.50 pick P5: 3 with 7,8 with 7,10 with 6 with 1,4,9,10 - $8.00
14 $0.50 pick P5: 3 with 9 with 4,6 with 7,9 with 2 - $2.00
15 $0.50 pick P5: 3 with 9 with 4,6 with 6 with 1,4,9,10 - $4.00
16 $0.50 pick P5: 3 with 9 with 7,10 with 7,9 with 1,4,9,10 - $8.00

A's with One C

17 $0.50 pick P5: 2,5,7 with 9 with 7,10 with 6 with 2 - $3.00
18 $0.50 pick P5: 3 with 1,2,6 with 7,10 with 6 with 2 - $3.00
19 $0.50 pick P5: 3 with 9 with 1,5 with 6 with 2 - $1.00
20 $0.50 pick P5: 3 with 9 with 7,10 with 1,3,4 with 2 - $3.00
21 $0.50 pick P5: 3 with 9 with 7,10 with 6 with 5,6,7,12 - $4.00

Total: $72.00


<$75 P4 Grid:

7: 9 (A), 7-8 (B), 1-2-6 (C)
8: 7-10 (A), 4-6 (B), 1-5 (C)
9: 6 (A), 7-9 (B), 1-3-4 (C)
10: 1-2-4 (A), 6-9-10 (B), 5-7-12 (C)

All A Entries

1 $1.00 pick P4: 9 with 7,10 with 6 with 1,2 - $4.00

A's with One B

2 $0.50 pick P4: 7,8 with 7,10 with 6 with 1,2 - $4.00
3 $0.50 pick P4: 9 with 4,6 with 6 with 1,2 - $2.00
4 $0.50 pick P4: 9 with 7,10 with 7,9 with 1,2 - $4.00
5 $0.50 pick P4: 9 with 7,10 with 6 with 4,6,9,10 - $4.00

A's with Two B's

6 $0.50 pick P4: 7,8 with 4,6 with 6 with 1,2 - $4.00
7 $0.50 pick P4: 7,8 with 7,10 with 7,9 with 1,2 - $8.00
8 $0.50 pick P4: 7,8 with 7,10 with 6 with 4,6,9,10 - $8.00
9 $0.50 pick P4: 9 with 4,6 with 7,9 with 1,2 - $4.00
10 $0.50 pick P4: 9 with 4,6 with 6 with 4,6,9,10 - $4.00
11 $0.50 pick P4: 9 with 7,10 with 7,9 with 4,6,9,10 - $8.00

A's with One C

12 $0.50 pick P4: 1,2,6 with 7,10 with 6 with 1,2 - $6.00
13 $0.50 pick P4: 9 with 1,3 with 6 with 1,2 - $2.00
14 $0.50 pick P4: 9 with 7,10 with 1,3,4 with 1,2 - $6.00
15 $0.50 pick P4: 9 with 7,10 with 6 with 5,7,12 - $3.00

Total: $71.00


Good luck!
Steve

Kasept 11-06-2014 09:06 AM

GPW SCR/CHG'S

lazytom 11-06-2014 03:30 PM

Steve- Just a note to thank you for your B.C efforts. That to me is the best two days of racing. It's one of those times that you don't have to be a very good handicapper because it seems like many of the horses can win. Giving me more chances to just bet on a gut feeling or looking at the horses. The way the classic ended still bothers me. All that anticipation, and it ends in such controversy. Worst part was the stewards saying it was a unanimous decision. I didn't hear anyone have that opinion after the race. As if it was that easy of a decision. Sounds like a cowardly way out. And I thought Baffert could of had more class then blaming the 9 horse for causing more of a disruption. If it happens next year they better be ready to make the same call. I guess that stewards are like politicians. And they no whats best for us ,the racing fan. Even if it doesn't come across as honest or fair. Thanks again. Take care

Kasept 11-08-2014 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazytom (Post 1005323)
Steve- Just a note to thank you for your B.C efforts. That to me is the best two days of racing. It's one of those times that you don't have to be a very good handicapper because it seems like many of the horses can win. Giving me more chances to just bet on a gut feeling or looking at the horses. The way the classic ended still bothers me. All that anticipation, and it ends in such controversy. Worst part was the stewards saying it was a unanimous decision. I didn't hear anyone have that opinion after the race. As if it was that easy of a decision. Sounds like a cowardly way out. And I thought Baffert could of had more class then blaming the 9 horse for causing more of a disruption. If it happens next year they better be ready to make the same call. I guess that stewards are like politicians. And they no whats best for us ,the racing fan. Even if it doesn't come across as honest or fair. Thanks again. Take care

Tom..

Thanks for the appreciative note. On-site BC lead up very different than Derby season and I try hard to get everyone as acclimated for the cards as possible.

I understand the frustration with how the Cup weekend ended. But while the aftermath of the Classic leaves many unsatisfied, remember that there would be an equally disgruntled post script with Bayern (and/or Toast of New York) taken down and randomly placed by the judges. Would they be placed 4th (and/or 5th) behind Shared Belief? Or even last behind Moreno? Is that somehow a more equitable ending? Though Baffert was attempting to deflect attention from Bayern suggesting Toast's beeline for the 3 path was DQ-worthy, there are plenty of people out there that agree. Had Bayern been DQ'd only, there'd be howling that Toast deserved a penalty too.

The point being steamrolled is that this set of CA stewards don't call tangles out of the gate. Calling one Saturday wasn't the place to start. Every race, every day has the potential to be decided in the stewards stand. It's part of the game. You accept it going in. The philosophy of stewards and the rules they administer can be adjusted to suit industry sentiment and there may be some positive response to how Saturday went down including the end of conversations by stewards with jockeys.

But we constantly ask that stewards be consistent in how they view the action and every long term California viewer agreed 100% that this panel held to their day in, day out policy when it comes to early jostling off the break. From that standpoint, we shouldn't be surprised at the no change and appreciate that they didn't take what was actually the easy way out. And I say that because there would have been screams that they never take down horses on a regular basis for what happened, so why now? From that standpoint, the decision is in fact 'fair'..

The only people 'happy' when races go to the judges are those that benefit. No matter what happened Saturday, you'd have had the same percentages of those happy and unhappy and those miserable no matter what.

lazytom 11-08-2014 03:20 PM

Steve- Well said. Well read. Thanks for taking the time. Much appreciated. Take care. And best to you.


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