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oracle80 10-11-2006 04:16 PM

Poly speed disaster at keeneland
 
If you are a trainer or an owner who owns or trains a horse who has speed(the trademark characteristic of good tbreds) then Keenelands new poly track is definitely not the place for you.

4 racing days so far, 29 "poly races" have yielded ONE wire to wire winner.
Sounds like a great deal to me!!! LOL!!!

eurobounce 10-11-2006 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
If you are a trainer or an owner who owns or trains a horse who has speed(the trademark characteristic of good tbreds) then Keenelands new poly track is definitely not the place for you.

4 racing days so far, 29 "poly races" have yielded ONE wire to wire winner.
Sounds like a great deal to me!!! LOL!!!

Yeah speed is sucking bad. They did a little better today with a coulpe of seconds but still only 1 winner.

TitanSooner 10-11-2006 04:27 PM

makes it easier for me to handicap.. chuck the speed. wow

eurobounce 10-11-2006 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TitanSooner
makes it easier for me to handicap.. chuck the speed. wow

As soon as I do that then speed will win.

TitanSooner 10-11-2006 04:29 PM

lol.. me too!

randallscott35 10-11-2006 04:30 PM

The only disaster today is this crazy Cory Lidle story. I don't know the attraction these guys have to these little planes that are death traps. Very sad.

Gander 10-11-2006 04:31 PM

I bet Spanish Chestnut on Saturday. He looked very strong halfway through the race. I thought I had a winner, but he stopped very badly in the stretch.

eurobounce 10-11-2006 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander
I bet Spanish Chestnut on Saturday. He looked very strong halfway through the race. I thought I had a winner, but he stopped very badly in the stretch.

I had him too. I thought he was the winner and then BANG he hits a wall and I throw my ticket in my pocket.

oracle80 10-11-2006 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
The only disaster today is this crazy Cory Lidle story. I don't know the attraction these guys have to these little planes that are death traps. Very sad.

Randall in light of that crash, I'd like to change the title of this thread but it won't let me edit it, or I just don't know how to.
Could a moderator please assist here and change the thread title please? Its in exteremely poor taste with the plane crash occurring. I apologize wholeheartedly.

Gander 10-11-2006 04:35 PM

I had him too. I thought he was the winner and then BANG he hits a wall and I throw my ticket in my pocket.

I had a pretty significant bet on Spanish Chestnut. I havent been that confident coming into the far turn in a long time. Thought for sure I was cashing.

eurobounce 10-11-2006 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
Randall in light of that crash, I'd like to change the title of this thread but it won't let me edit it, or I just don't know how to.
Could a moderator please assist here and change the thread title please? Its in exteremely poor taste with the plane crash occurring. I apologize wholeheartedly.

I think we are able to seperate the two. But I do know how you feel Oracle. It is sad to hear about the plane crash. My herat does go out to everyone.

eurobounce 10-11-2006 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander
I had him too. I thought he was the winner and then BANG he hits a wall and I throw my ticket in my pocket.

I had a pretty significant bet on Spanish Chestnut. I havent been that confident coming into the far turn in a long time. Thought for sure I was cashing.

I had $40 to win. Maybe next time we will catch him.

randallscott35 10-11-2006 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
Randall in light of that crash, I'd like to change the title of this thread but it won't let me edit it, or I just don't know how to.
Could a moderator please assist here and change the thread title please? Its in exteremely poor taste with the plane crash occurring. I apologize wholeheartedly.

Mike I know you didn't mean to do it when you titled the thread. No need to change it. Not your fault.

alysheba4 10-11-2006 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oracle80
If you are a trainer or an owner who owns or trains a horse who has speed(the trademark characteristic of good tbreds) then Keenelands new poly track is definitely not the place for you.

4 racing days so far, 29 "poly races" have yielded ONE wire to wire winner.
Sounds like a great deal to me!!! LOL!!!

.......glad you brought this up oracle, last sunday i had win plays on 2 horses.....cant remember the races, both horse looked home free gate to wire.......then both made a weird shift / stagger towards the rail its like they hit quicksand at the same point. hell with that stuff my friend...... i was home clear on an easy lead deep stretch both times and lose:confused:

oracle80 10-11-2006 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by alysheba4
.......glad you brought this up oracle, last sunday i had win plays on 2 horses.....cant remember the races, both horse looked home free gate to wire.......then both made a weird shift / stagger towards the rail its like they hit quicksand at the same point. hell with that stuff my friend...... i was home clear on an easy lead deep stretch both times and lose:confused:


The only wire to wire winner was a heavily favored huge dropdown in class horse who himself struggled to get home first.
In my life, I don't think I've ever seen a racetrack, at any level, under any circumstances where 29 dirt races were run over 4 days and onely one horse wired the field. Its unheard of.
So much for the "fair, honest, surface".

Gander 10-11-2006 04:42 PM

I don't know the attraction these guys have to these little planes that are death traps. Very sad.

Very tragic Randall and I dont begin to try and understand what guys do with millions of dollars and a need for excitement with something so dangerous. I remember the JFK jr tragedy and thought why would a guy like this do something this dangerous? My brother is a licensed pilot and no he doesnt do it for a living, its his hobby. I wish he wouldnt.

eurobounce 10-11-2006 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander
I don't know the attraction these guys have to these little planes that are death traps. Very sad.

Very tragic Randall and I dont begin to try and understand what guys do with millions of dollars and a need for excitement with something so dangerous. I remember the JFK jr tragedy and thought why would a guy like this do something this dangerous? My brother is a licensed pilot and no he doesnt do it for a living, its his hobby. I wish he wouldnt.

That one golfer is the one that got me - Payne Stewart. Didnt the whole crew pass out and the plane was flying until it ran out of gas?

randallscott35 10-11-2006 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by eurobounce
That one golfer is the one that got me - Payne Stewart. Didnt the whole crew pass out and the plane was flying until it ran out of gas?

It lost air pressure. They all lost consciousness so nobody felt anything.

King Glorious 10-11-2006 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by eurobounce
I had $40 to win. Maybe next time we will catch him.

Won't happen. Spanish Chestnut is not a winner. People kept saying he needs to be back in sprints. Well he has run exclusively in sprints since the Derby last year and has won but a single race. He's been overmatched in every stakes race he's run in.

skippy3481 10-11-2006 04:46 PM

Guys flying is not inherently dangerous contary to popular belief. The problem becomes when they fly into conditions that they don't have skills for.


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