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randallscott35 10-02-2006 09:50 PM

Zito Comes to His Senses
 
Says he may well start Sun King on Saturday which is what he should've done all along. This, for my money, gives him a chance back in the BCC. Training up to it would've been a mistake.

kentuckyrosesinmay 10-02-2006 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
Says he may well start Sun King on Saturday which is what he should've done all along. This, for my money, gives him a chance back in the BCC. Training up to it would've been a mistake.

H e l l yeah...

I hope he goes if he isn't too tired. If all systems are go with Sun King here's a shout out:

RUN THE HORSE ZITO!!!.

I don't that that training him up to the BCC would have necessarily hindered his chances in the race if he was already tired. I've become quite a fan of Sun King.

blackthroatedwind 10-02-2006 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
Says he may well start Sun King on Saturday which is what he should've done all along. This, for my money, gives him a chance back in the BCC. Training up to it would've been a mistake.

He didn't say he was running him....he said he might.

Coach Pants 10-02-2006 10:00 PM

Well there goes any chance of the exotics paying over $10

randallscott35 10-02-2006 10:02 PM

Yes Blackthroat, that's I said he "may well be" running....I thought he would when Invasor went out. Odds he runs. 80/20.

1st_Saturday_in_May 10-02-2006 10:02 PM

I dont know. Horse fires big every other time and last time in the Woodward was one of his off efforts. He'll run big in the JCGC but wont be as tough in the Classic. I wanna play him in the Classic real bad, esp. if Ball Four runs, so I say keep him out. Save him for Churchill!

blackthroatedwind 10-02-2006 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
Yes Blackthroat, that's I said he "may well be" running....I thought he would when Invasor went out. Odds he runs. 80/20.

I understand what you said but you also titled the thread " Zito comes to his senses ". 80/20? I don't know. I talked to him last night. He's certainly thinking about it.

Seattleallstar 10-02-2006 10:05 PM

Sun King is a loser defintely doesnt have the class to compete with the best

randallscott35 10-02-2006 10:05 PM

Bernardini doesn't have to win this. I still think 10 panels is not Sun King's game, but they don't have a flat mile race in the BC which is what they should have.

randallscott35 10-02-2006 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I understand what you said but you also titled the thread " Zito comes to his senses ". 80/20? I don't know. I talked to him last night. He's certainly thinking about it.

I hear ya, just a guess on the odds. Lot of money out there.

blackthroatedwind 10-02-2006 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
Bernardini doesn't have to win this. I still think 10 panels is not Sun King's game, but they don't have a flat mile race in the BC which is what they should have.

I love mile races, and agree that Sun King is probably best suited to that distance, but there are two major problems with having a mile dirt race in the BC. One is that many tracks can't even run the distance ( and there is a significant difference between one and two turn miles ) But, I think the biggest problem is it will detract from and dilute the other races.

I think the Met Mile and the Cigar Mile are the two best stakes of the year in NY ( though the Whitney seems to be the most exciting year in and year out ).

One thing about Sun King and 1 1/4, while I tend to agree with you, he hasn't gone that far since recently elevating his game. His races in the Commonwealth, Met, Whitney and probably even the Woodward are arguably the best races he has ever run. He may just be at the top of his game.

Seattleallstar 10-02-2006 10:13 PM

SUn King is a born loser, a hanger with no heart and class, During his 3 yr old yr he could compete with the best but barely win at the group 1 level

1st_Saturday_in_May 10-02-2006 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar
SUn King is a born loser

So, you and he do have something in common then!

kentuckyrosesinmay 10-02-2006 10:17 PM

Seattle, don't talk about my man Sun King like that:D
He is very classy.

tycharles01 10-02-2006 10:19 PM

The JCGC seems to me like a big moneymaker.

Bernardini is goin to be 3/5 or 4/5 and although tons of people dont think he needs/wants to be on the lead, he will be pushing the rabbit Spanish Chestnut for the first 7/7.5f. Guys like it or not Spanish Chestnut only has 1 job and that is to get out there and run like he is running a sprint,and Bernardini is not gonna like being far back,and if Chestnut runs the fractions they want him to you could finally see Bernardini dying in the stretch. (Note-Even tho this is not the best field, there will be no Double Galore,High Finance,or Hemingway's Key run against him going into the stretch)

Now I like Sun King alot,however like most say this is not his distance and if there are 9 or 10 horses in the race he might have a hard trip to the front. Def should catch alot of horses tiring with the pace tho

West Virginia might be a nice play after this is all said and done

DiscreetCat=Monster 10-02-2006 10:20 PM

If he's running because Invasor is not, then the BC Classic should be out of the question. That race will be 5 x's as tough

kentuckyrosesinmay 10-02-2006 10:21 PM

I nominate Spanish Chestnut for the most mismanaged horse of all time award. He can share it with Going Wild.

Seriously, poor Spanish Chestnut. This could have been a really nice horse...

Seattleallstar 10-02-2006 10:32 PM

im with you there Jess, poor Spanish Chestnut. This horse could of been a brillant 7f, 1m horse on either surface.

tycharles01 10-02-2006 10:36 PM

Well at least 1 thing

Spanish Chestnut and Dylan Thomas will be coupled so only have to remember 1 number not to WPS instead of 2:D

Cunningham Racing 10-02-2006 11:36 PM

I can't blame him...with Invasor out now he could definately be second in the race...you'll need a private detective to find Dylan Thomas on the dirt in my opinion...he won't factor...

Sun King is the class and style to be second here behind the great one...why not? Second in a Grade 1, $750,000 is pretty darn good....


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