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justindew 05-05-2013 10:29 AM

Huge Late Bet
 
It looks like Java's War went from 26-1 down to 21-1 as the horses were entering the gate. I'd like to know how big the bet was. Does anyone know where I can find win pool totals for each horse? Frac Daddy and Java's War were both right around the same odds with a minute to post, so I could probably figure out the amount of the bet by comparing their final win pool totals.

Thanks.

Port Conway Lane 05-05-2013 10:33 AM

Expressbet usually has the pools from the previous days races. Orb was 600k behind Revolutionary with 1 minute to post.

justindew 05-05-2013 11:01 AM

If anyone with an Expressbet account can help me, I'd appreciate it.

philcski 05-05-2013 11:02 AM

I saw the same thing as Port Conway- Orb was ~$600k behind Revolutionary with 2 MTP. And goes off favored by a full point? Really? That's like over a million dollar swing in that pool.

jms62 05-05-2013 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philcski (Post 927041)
I saw the same thing as Port Conway- Orb was ~$600k behind Revolutionary with 2 MTP. And goes off favored by a full point? Really? That's like over a million dollar swing in that pool.

No horse over 40-1 odds. The last couple years we have seen no horses carrying huge odds. I suspect their is some computer based algorithmic trading going on.

Port Conway Lane 05-05-2013 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justindew (Post 927040)
If anyone with an Expressbet account can help me, I'd appreciate it.

http://www.kentuckyderby.com/racing-...erby-live-odds

Dunbar 05-05-2013 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justindew (Post 927034)
It looks like Java's War went from 26-1 down to 21-1 as the horses were entering the gate. I'd like to know how big the bet was. Does anyone know where I can find win pool totals for each horse? Frac Daddy and Java's War were both right around the same odds with a minute to post, so I could probably figure out the amount of the bet by comparing their final win pool totals.

Thanks.

The pool is still showing at:

http://www.kentuckyderby.com/racing-...erby-live-odds

I hadn't realized Vyjack had gone all the way down to 18-1!

otal Wagered: $36,625,560.83

2 Oxbow
Trained by D. Lukas
Mounted by Gary Stevens
24-1
M/L 30
$1,183,465.85

3 Revolutionary
Trained by Todd Pletcher
Mounted by Calvin Borel
6-1
M/L 10
$4,138,978.72

4 Golden Soul
Trained by Dallas Stewart
Mounted by Robby Albarado
34-1
M/L 50
$865,181.21

5 Normandy Invasion
Trained by Chad Brown
Mounted by Javier Castellano
9-1
M/L 12
$2,977,712.39

6 Mylute
Trained by Thomas Amoss
Mounted by Rosie Napravnik
15-1
M/L 15
$1,880,493.56

7 Giant Finish
Trained by Anthony Dutrow
Mounted by Jose Espinoza
38-1
M/L 50
$775,250.05

8 Goldencents
Trained by Doug O'Neill
Mounted by Kevin Krigger
7-1
M/L 5
$3,434,275.77

9 Overanalyze
Trained by Todd Pletcher
Mounted by Rafael Bejarano
16-1
M/L 15
$1,784,013.20

10 Palace Malice
Trained by Todd Pletcher
Mounted by Mike Smith
23-1
M/L 20
$1,245,198.46

11 Lines of Battle
Trained by Aidan O'Brien
Mounted by Ryan Moore
31-1
M/L 30
$933,183.98

12 Itsmyluckyday
Trained by Edward Plesa, Jr.
Mounted by Elvis Trujillo
9-1
M/L 15
$2,924,870.49

13 Falling Sky
Trained by John Terranova, II
Mounted by Luis Saez
39-1
M/L 50
$753,932.49

14 Verrazano
Trained by Todd Pletcher
Mounted by John Velazquez
8-1
M/L 4
$3,164,913.71

15 Charming Kitten
Trained by Todd Pletcher
Mounted by Edgar Prado
33-1
M/L 20
$898,330.22

16 Orb
Trained by Claude McGaughey III
Mounted by Joel Rosario
5-1
M/L 7/2
$4,734,808.00

17 Will Take Charge
Trained by D. Lukas
Mounted by Jon Court
36-1
M/L 20
$821,501.33

18 Frac Daddy
Trained by Kenneth McPeek
Mounted by Victor Lebron
25-1
M/L 50
$1,180,473.46

19 Java's War
Trained by Kenneth McPeek
Mounted by Julien Leparoux
21-1
M/L 15
$1,366,189.65

20 Vyjack
Trained by Rudy Rodriguez
Mounted by Garrett Gomez
18-1
M/L 15
$1,552,444.67


--Dunbar

Thunder Gulch 05-05-2013 02:26 PM

I wasn't watching the board but we were buzzing about Orb sitting at 9-1 forever. That's a big move in a pool that size. Not exactly tourist money.


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