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dino 05-03-2013 05:19 PM

oaks-derby will pays
 
anyone have them?

pointman 05-03-2013 05:26 PM

Based upon a $2 wager:

1 .00
2- 2,133.40
3- 790.00
4- 3,599.20
5- 742.60
6- 1,508.20
7- 5,843.80
8- 953.60
9- 1,246.80
10- 1,547.60
11- 2,337.20
12- 983.40
13- 6,241.40
14- 804.60
15- 3,617.80
16- 621.40
17- 3,088.00
18- 3,943.80
19- 1,685.60
20- 1,313.20

dino 05-03-2013 05:30 PM

thanks pointman

declansharbor 05-03-2013 06:36 PM

Both Normandy Invasion and Revolutionary with lower pay-offs than Verrazano. The 'Normandy Invasion was gaining late on Verrazano in The Wood' angle.

Calzone Lord 05-03-2013 07:18 PM

Need Goldencents or Normandy Invasion.

Here was my betting strategy I posted here for the Oaks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 926034)
DoJ on top of Pure Fun, Seaneen Girl, and Princess of Sylmar and using all 4 in horizontal wagers.

The Hall of Famer Calvin Borel cost me a very nice exacta.

hi_im_god 05-03-2013 07:53 PM

goldencents is the favorite in early betting. word is getting out about your picks, doug.

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...ing?source=rss

Calzone Lord 05-03-2013 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hi_im_god (Post 926613)
goldencents is the favorite in early betting. word is getting out about your picks, doug.

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...ing?source=rss

I don't know if I've ever seen a horse with as many irrelevant human interest angles associated with him as Goldencents has.

* Rick Pitino is a part owner: he only owns 5%... but he might as well as own 99% from the way it's been reported

* Trainer Doug O'Neill winning the race last year. I suppose this one isn't 100% irrelevant ... but it's not that meaningful

* His jockey is bidding to become the first black jockey to win the race in a century... if this race was run on a Thursday afternoon with no publicity, Kevin Krigger's presence would actually equal inflated odds. I still have no idea how Goldencent was 6/1 in the SA Derby.

* The typically myopic Californian bettors and fans don't have another contender in the race who is based in Southern Cal.

A lot of irrelevant crap is associated with Goldencents to depress his odds a little bit.

The fact that I picked him might sway pweizer and about 46 people who live in Erie...but that's about all the swing I have.

hi_im_god 05-03-2013 08:35 PM

you probably have more than 46 people at this site alone that follow your plays. the horses to follow was a tour de force.

I have a friend that's always asking me who the rachel alexandra guy likes in big races after i told him about your your early spot on her.

bigjag0716 05-03-2013 09:20 PM

I need either Normandy Invasion or Itsmyluckyday tomorrow. My double today was 2/3/4/6/8/11 with 5 and 12 for 24 bucks. Really wishing I threw in a few more horses for tomorrow, but I figured it wouldn't have been worth it because it was most likely going to be a shorter priced winner. Thanks for posting the will pays, btw.

my miss storm cat 05-03-2013 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pointman (Post 926586)
6- 1,508.20
12- 983.40
13- 6,241.40
16- 621.40
19- 1,685.60

I have the 6,12,13, and 16 in the DD and the same horses with the 19 thrown in for the Oaks-Woodford (I singled Dan)- Derby pick three.

Have round 1 futures for Falling Sky and Normandy Invasion and round 2 for Orb.

Thanks for posting these, Pointman, and again... congrats on being live and best of luck to you tomorrow. :tro:

Calzone Lord 05-03-2013 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hi_im_god (Post 926618)
you probably have more than 46 people at this site alone that follow your plays. the horses to follow was a tour de force.

I have a friend that's always asking me who the rachel alexandra guy likes in big races after i told him about your your early spot on her.

Thanks for the kind words, man.

This is exactly what you NOT want to have happen when you're whole bet in the race is #8 over #5, #6, and #7:






Besides Dreaming of Julia getting knocked sideways ... it appears that she cracked Pure Fun in the head with her own head.

Obviously, the 7 and 8 got all of the worst of it ... but thankfully Princess of Sylmer was able to deal with it and win.

Hopefully Dreaming of Julia and Pure Fun are both ok. DoJ was running extremely erratically, though that might have been because she was taking a lot of dirt in her face and was probably short on fitness as well from being under-trained coming into this race.

hoovesupsideyourhead 05-03-2013 09:49 PM

great job doug.good luck sat

Danzig 05-03-2013 09:55 PM

good luck to all who are live for the double!

tector 05-03-2013 10:02 PM

Anybody who doesn't listen to Doug's insights is a fool, plain and simple.

letswastemoney 05-03-2013 10:09 PM

I certainly threw in Princess of Sylmar in my double after reading Doug's opinion. Originally, I was just going to use Pure Fun.

I need either Goldencents or Itsmyluckday. I have a double to each of them for $6 each.

Hickory Hill Hoff 05-03-2013 10:35 PM

There were two horses, that l had left in my future wagers.....Princess of Sylmar & Overanalyze...... got it for buck!

jms62 05-04-2013 02:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 926630)
I have the 6,12,13, and 16 in the DD and the same horses with the 19 thrown in for the Oaks-Woodford (I singled Dan)- Derby pick three.

Have round 1 futures for Falling Sky and Normandy Invasion and round 2 for Orb.

Thanks for posting these, Pointman, and again... congrats on being live and best of luck to you tomorrow. :tro:

12,14 and 16 for me. Let's get the 12 home.

PatCummings 05-04-2013 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 926616)
* The typically myopic Californian bettors and fans don't have another contender in the race who is based in Southern Cal.

How about the fact that there is only one horse in the field outside of Goldencents to have started on the main track in SoCal in their career? Oxbow...and only one other to have made a start there, and that was Lines of Battle, which basically doesn't count. Goldencents is likely getting a ton of money from everyone in the pacific time zone.

PatCummings 05-04-2013 07:10 AM

Have a live Woodford/Derby P3 today which should provide building excitement...live to Slim Shadey, Silver Max, Wise Dan, Point of Entry and then 8, 12, 16 in the Derby.

Bogey 05-04-2013 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatCummings (Post 926683)
Have a live Woodford/Derby P3 today which should provide building excitement...live to Slim Shadey, Silver Max, Wise Dan, Point of Entry and then 8, 12, 16 in the Derby.

Great ticket with tons of potential, especially if you can best POE and Wise Dan. Good Racing Luck


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