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cakes44 04-21-2013 07:46 PM

What would you do with Wise Dan and Successful Dan over the next couple months?
 
I probably go Woodford with Wise and Foster with Successful.

Will that happen? No chance.

RockHardTen1985 04-21-2013 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 924782)
I probably go Woodford with Wise and Foster with Successful.

Will that happen? No chance.

I badly want Wise Dan in the Woodford.

South Beach Luv 04-21-2013 08:13 PM

http://www.drf.com/news/keeneland-su...ctions-ben-ali

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LoPresti said the Grade 1 Stephen Foster at Churchill Downs on June 15 would be considered for Successful Dan’s next race, but a race there would be contingent on what racing plans are drawn up for Wise Dan, who ran second in the Foster last year after winning the Ben Ali. Lopresti trains both horses for Fink.
Looks like one of them is going to the Foster, I bought seats already thinking Wise Dan was. I hope Wise Dan goes and I'd send Successful Dan to the Met Mile next month.

Then in August bring them both to Arlington, one in the St Leger and one in the Million :D

Scav 04-21-2013 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by South Beach Luv (Post 924794)
http://www.drf.com/news/keeneland-su...ctions-ben-ali



Looks like one of them is going to the Foster, I bought seats already thinking Wise Dan was. I hope Wise Dan goes and I'd send Successful Dan to the Met Mile next month.

Then in August bring them both to Arlington, one in the St Leger and one in the Million :D

Wise Dan is going to same races as last year. With Successful, they just go one at a time cause that of that tendon

Neither will be at Arlington, Mort just isnt into it. The mare has an afleet alex filly 2 yr old, and she is in foal to More Then Ready

cakes44 04-21-2013 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 924785)
I badly want Wise Dan in the Woodford.

Wise Dan and Point of Entry won't see each other once this year.

RockHardTen1985 04-21-2013 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 924800)
Wise Dan and Point of Entry won't see each other once this year.

Do you agree that they are ducking POE a little? I know he's useful on dirt, but I believe Dan is much better on turf. Woodford makes a lot of sense. Especially now, you could run the other Dan in the Clark.

Sightseek 04-22-2013 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by South Beach Luv (Post 924794)
http://www.drf.com/news/keeneland-su...ctions-ben-ali



Looks like one of them is going to the Foster, I bought seats already thinking Wise Dan was. I hope Wise Dan goes and I'd send Successful Dan to the Met Mile next month.

Then in August bring them both to Arlington, one in the St Leger and one in the Million :D

Me too -- let's hope that they decide to enter both!

cakes44 04-22-2013 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 924804)
Do you agree that they are ducking POE a little? I know he's useful on dirt, but I believe Dan is much better on turf. Woodford makes a lot of sense. Especially now, you could run the other Dan in the Clark.

Don't know if they are actually ducking each other as much as it is just so easy to map out a schedule these days(the days of 4-6 race campaigns and "fresheners" in the middle ofdracing season) and not face anyone worth a darn until the BC.

Danzig 04-22-2013 02:23 PM

i'd carefully space SD's races out because of his soft tissue problems, and keep him on as kind a surface as possible.
wise dan, i'd run him in the big races that sd wouldn't make. they could conceivably take a lot of the biggest races in this country because they're so versatile. what a fun position it would be to have those two in your stable.

Danzig 04-22-2013 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 924804)
Do you agree that they are ducking POE a little? I know he's useful on dirt, but I believe Dan is much better on turf. Woodford makes a lot of sense. Especially now, you could run the other Dan in the Clark.

no. i think the dans like things a bit shorter while point of entry seems to relish the 1 1/2 mile or thereabout on turf.

and you're being vague-which dan is better on turf and which would go in the clark?

Scav 04-22-2013 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 924804)
Do you agree that they are ducking POE a little? I know he's useful on dirt, but I believe Dan is much better on turf. Woodford makes a lot of sense. Especially now, you could run the other Dan in the Clark.

How is Wise Dan ducking Point of Entry? They are completely two different horses.

RockHardTen1985 04-22-2013 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 924856)
no. i think the dans like things a bit shorter while point of entry seems to relish the 1 1/2 mile or thereabout on turf.

and you're being vague-which dan is better on turf and which would go in the clark?

I think if hes OK you run Successful Dan in the Clark. Wise Dan ran huge races at 8f on the grass last year, and I believe his Saratoga turf win was at 9f. Point of Entry is a stayer, but they experimented going 9f and he passed that with a huge win over Animal Kingdom. Article on drf right now says Wise Dan is possible for the Woodford. That would be a dream come true for me. Back to Successful I know he has some issues, but it appears that he came out of yesterdays race OK.

RockHardTen1985 04-22-2013 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 924865)
How is Wise Dan ducking Point of Entry? They are completely two different horses.

IMO the Woodford is a perfect spot for him after his 8f comeback. If anything you catch POE at a distance that is a little short of his best. Last year, Wise Dans Foster was the worst race he ran all year. I know he was just beat and the pace was hot. I do think its clear he is a better turf horse though.

Cannon Shell 04-22-2013 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 924870)
I think if hes OK you run Successful Dan in the Clark. Wise Dan ran huge races at 8f on the grass last year, and I believe his Saratoga turf win was at 9f. Point of Entry is a stayer, but they experimented going 9f and he passed that with a huge win over Animal Kingdom. Article on drf right now says Wise Dan is possible for the Woodford. That would be a dream come true for me. Back to Successful I know he has some issues, but it appears that he came out of yesterdays race OK.

The Clark is run In November

RockHardTen1985 04-22-2013 10:13 PM

Thanks Chuck. Foster.

Danzig 04-23-2013 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 924889)
The Clark is run In November

when he kept saying clark, i was wondering if they'd moved it, but never checked on it. thanks.


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