Nice to see the linemaker for Gulfstream brought his A game
 

4/1 on Where's The Baby. :zz:


I assume last out Grade 1 winner Unbrdiled Command was supposed to be 4/1.

Where's The Baby, will be more than 40/1 ... he finished 9th in an allowance at 9/1 odds last time out against much, much weaker. He's also winless in his last six turf tries, all at the Opt Claiming/Nx level.

LOL. Everybody's talking about what a great price Unbrdiled Command is. I wonder if there's going to be an official retraction.
If they ever get rid of this Parimutuel nonsense and have the tracks put out real odds, these things wouldn't happen.

As explained by Mike Welsch yesterday on ATR, it was a transciption error with his price and Where's the Baby flip-flopped.

What does this mean?

Kennedy was shot from the grassy knoll?

If it's on the internet it must be true?

There is really a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow? :D

Ya, thats what we want!! The tracks would make sure they always win. Carryovers would never be, and no one would ever play again.

I think he is saying the tracks should act as their own bookmakers ...

That would probably be the first time in history that such a thing has ever happened.

A casino tried it once. Lasted a week or so if I remember right...

I think it was called 'Sport Of Kings' or something like that.

Yep.

Wow, that is a blast from the past! I remember going there once when Lil E.T. won the Derby. Didn't realize they had fixed odds at one point. When we went it was Pari-mutuel, so the fixed odds must have not lasted that long. At the time I was wondering how a place could survive just handling horse racing.

TAB, the Australian tote organization, has a public pool fixed odds model. The late Stan Bergstein had one of his people do an anaylsis of it in the 90's I believe. I'll have to dig out the link.

Las Vegas had fixed maximum show payoffs ($6 or $8) in the early 80's that were being manipulated by someone making large show wagers on longshots at Pimlico and his cohorts making larger show wagers in Vegas.

As I recall the great sprinter Dave's Friend barely held third in one of those races and in another race one of the longshots did show, killing the profit margin. I found a link to an archived Baltimore Sun article and I'm pretty sure Beyer had an article about it.


http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/baltsun/...t+of+Nev.+scam

Wow, Dale Austin, there is a blast from the past for a Baltimore guy.

Huh? It's the Parimutuel system that makes sure the tracks always win. Fixed odds on W/P/S wouldn't affect carryovers at all.