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joeydb 11-16-2012 10:52 AM

No more Twinkies - Hostess out of business
 
Tell the kiddies they can thank the unions for this one.

I'm sure the First Lady is happy - another evil dessert maker is gone, along with 18,500 jobs.

witchdoctor 11-16-2012 11:12 AM

I go on a diet and Hostess goes bankruptcy. Coincidence, I think not.:D

Indian Charlie 11-16-2012 11:55 AM

Clearly this is a twisted method of firing their workers.

Not that I care one way or the other.

GBBob 11-16-2012 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 902341)
Tell the kiddies they can thank the unions for this one.

I'm sure the First Lady is happy - another evil dessert maker is gone, along with 18,500 jobs.

Over/under on the re-introduction of the "New Twinkie"...3 mos..it won't sell and they will then bring back the Twinkie Classic..just like Coke did;)

Danzig 11-16-2012 12:16 PM

there's no way hostess will be out of business. i'm sure this is just a ploy. or maybe it'll end up sold. regardless, that brand will continue to exist.

joeydb 11-16-2012 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 902358)
there's no way hostess will be out of business. i'm sure this is just a ploy. or maybe it'll end up sold. regardless, that brand will continue to exist.

Absolutely. The brand will exist as it is still worth something and will be sold - through liquidation. One of the competitors like Tastykake will buy it.

But this is an opportunity for the top brass to cash out, leave this union wrangling behind. The buyer of the brand(s) will be able to set up shop in a right-to-work state and escape unions entirely, modernize equipment instead of the 82 year old baking stuff that might still power Hostess' operations.

Hostess is indeed going out of business. The CEO said "It's over" this morning. There was no further pleading for workers to come back. The parasites have killed the host.

Danzig 11-16-2012 12:45 PM

hostess has been having issues for years. there's no way it's just the unions fault in this. i think they've restructured a couple times just in the last few years.
the strike might be the last straw, but it's certainly not the only straw.

jms62 11-16-2012 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 902367)
hostess has been having issues for years. there's no way it's just the unions fault in this. i think they've restructured a couple times just in the last few years.
the strike might be the last straw, but it's certainly not the only straw.

You know Joey... If it were up to him there would be no Unions, Minimum Wage or Regulations of any kind.

my miss storm cat 11-16-2012 12:53 PM

Fly with the angels.

3kings 11-16-2012 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 902370)
Fly with the angels.

:tro:

Rudeboyelvis 11-16-2012 01:06 PM

How long before all of this factory equipment shows up in Mexico and we get our Twinkies back?

bigrun 11-16-2012 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 902373)
How long before all of this factory equipment shows up in Mexico and we get our Twinkies back?

Hope they sprinkle them with jalapeno sauce...yummy..:tro:

Arletta 11-16-2012 01:31 PM

History of the Twinkie :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hef0gCnTHxE

MaTH716 11-16-2012 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bigrun (Post 902380)
Hope they sprinkle them with jalapeno sauce...yummy..:tro:

Better chance that they will be sprinkled with cocaine.

joeydb 11-16-2012 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 902373)
How long before all of this factory equipment shows up in Mexico and we get our Twinkies back?

Maybe - why would that happen? Oh yeaaahhh... that union thing...

18000 jobs gone. How many of those people voted Democrat, at their union's urging? Worked out real well.

jms62 11-16-2012 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 902384)
Maybe - why would that happen? Oh yeaaahhh... that union thing...

18000 jobs gone. How many of those people voted Democrat, at their union's urging? Worked out real well.

I doubt how they voted has any impact whatsoever to their current situation.

joeydb 11-16-2012 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 902389)
I doubt how they voted has any impact whatsoever to their current situation.

Not a direct result - no - the timeline is too short (10 days). Unless the givebacks were expanded to offset ObamaCare expenses, but even that seems too soon.

But, does it not cause one to question their political alignment? The same union that told you to vote Democratic is the one that lost you your job.

Danzig 11-16-2012 02:02 PM

i'm not a big union fan. i think some of the unions have lost touch with why they ever began.
that said, how many people think there's a possible correlation between lower union membership and lower wages? it's something to consider. there was an article a few months back that said as unions have gone downhilll, so have wages on average.
they aren't the entire solution, nor are they the entire problem. henry ford operated under the belief that the employee should make enough to buy the product he's making. in some places, that holds true. others, not at all.

Danzig 11-16-2012 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 902395)
Not a direct result - no - the timeline is too short (10 days). Unless the givebacks were expanded to offset ObamaCare expenses, but even that seems too soon.

But, does it not cause one to question their political alignment? The same union that told you to vote Democratic is the one that lost you your job.

that's a hell of a leap to make.

OldDog 11-16-2012 03:17 PM



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