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my miss storm cat 09-28-2012 08:39 PM

How does this even happen and where is the outrage?
 
This could have been beyond disasterous.

http://heraldbulletin.com/local/x354...t-Hoosier-Park

herkhorse 09-28-2012 08:52 PM

Outrage at what, a stalled tractor?

Happened at Oaklawn a few years ago, GBBob was involved.

my miss storm cat 09-28-2012 08:59 PM

Maybe I'm naive. I think it's pretty shocking.

Danzig 09-28-2012 09:38 PM

yeah, it happens. mechanical failure never comes at an opportune time. not the first time, and won't be the last.

NoLuvForPletch 09-28-2012 09:50 PM

That is one focused track announcer. Never even mentioned it.

my miss storm cat 09-28-2012 09:56 PM

Shouldn't each track be doing everything in their power to make sure even the most miniscule piece of equiptment is functioning properly? Since lives depend on it shouldn't they be held accountable?

We have the NY Times... do we really need **** like this happening? Another nail in the coffin?

When there's a problem instead of boo hooing cause said problem gets some press which in turn becomes fuel for PETA et al I think we need to step up and say hey this happened and this is what were doing about it.

Or

We will become the people we are portrayed as if we don't recognize how serious things like this are and act on them.

I would rather people scoff (not you guys... just for the record) and find it / me foolish any day of the week than to become blase and jaded and not have any reaction at all when things like tis happen.

We can keep right on wearing blinkers, living the bumpersticker mentality (**** happens), and continue shrugging our collective shoulders because we're so nonchalant or I don't know what OR we can be the ones to say no, fix this, this is unacceptable, this should never happen again cause once every few years is still too many times.

Had it been really tragic we'd be doing that now.

We can take it for a wake up call or we can do nothing.

Frost King 09-28-2012 10:48 PM

I can live with the malfunction of the equipment. Stuff happens, what was unacceptable, was that they waited so long to stop the race. It should have been stopped as the were entering the far turn, not when they were turning for home. The sirens should have been sounded, to let everyone know, that there was something on the track. The stewards should be held accountable for this mess.

Danzig 09-29-2012 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 892934)
Shouldn't each track be doing everything in their power to make sure even the most miniscule piece of equiptment is functioning properly? Since lives depend on it shouldn't they be held accountable?

We have the NY Times... do we really need **** like this happening? Another nail in the coffin?

When there's a problem instead of boo hooing cause said problem gets some press which in turn becomes fuel for PETA et al I think we need to step up and say hey this happened and this is what were doing about it.

Or

We will become the people we are portrayed as if we don't recognize how serious things like this are and act on them.

I would rather people scoff (not you guys... just for the record) and find it / me foolish any day of the week than to become blase and jaded and not have any reaction at all when things like tis happen.

We can keep right on wearing blinkers, living the bumpersticker mentality (**** happens), and continue shrugging our collective shoulders because we're so nonchalant or I don't know what OR we can be the ones to say no, fix this, this is unacceptable, this should never happen again cause once every few years is still too many times.

Had it been really tragic we'd be doing that now.

We can take it for a wake up call or we can do nothing.

of course they keep their stuff working. have you ever had your car just inexplicably not start? i have, even tho it was perfectly fine all the way up to the point when it wasn't.

my miss storm cat 09-29-2012 09:26 AM

Is there any kind of protocol for lack of a better word...

The alarm, outriders... or does whatever happens just happen?

Is stuff checked regularly?

Oh well. I do hope the injured horse is okay and will just try to accept that **** happens. :rolleyes:

Dahoss 09-29-2012 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 892934)
Shouldn't each track be doing everything in their power to make sure even the most miniscule piece of equiptment is functioning properly? Since lives depend on it shouldn't they be held accountable?

We have the NY Times... do we really need **** like this happening? Another nail in the coffin?

When there's a problem instead of boo hooing cause said problem gets some press which in turn becomes fuel for PETA et al I think we need to step up and say hey this happened and this is what were doing about it.

Or

We will become the people we are portrayed as if we don't recognize how serious things like this are and act on them.

I would rather people scoff (not you guys... just for the record) and find it / me foolish any day of the week than to become blase and jaded and not have any reaction at all when things like tis happen.

We can keep right on wearing blinkers, living the bumpersticker mentality (**** happens), and continue shrugging our collective shoulders because we're so nonchalant or I don't know what OR we can be the ones to say no, fix this, this is unacceptable, this should never happen again cause once every few years is still too many times.

Had it been really tragic we'd be doing that now.

We can take it for a wake up call or we can do nothing.

No offense, but consider me jaded and blase because I just can't muster any outrage for this.

In a game where we have no idea who is on the up and up, outrageous takeout rates, inconsistent stewards and a complete and total lack of respect for gamblers...yeah this is way down on the list of things to cause me outrage.

It was an unfortunate incident and I'm glad no one was really hurt, but stuff like this will and continue to happen. No amount of outrage on a message board no less, will change it.

Coach Pants 09-29-2012 09:53 AM

There's not much they can do the way the track is designed.

What can be done to slowly eliminate the problem is to design tracks where the gate is slightly off the main course.

But that would cost money. And we all know money is the most important thing in this phony world where the owners and decision makers are much more comfortable lining their pockets, issuing a bland statement, and the f.uck ups roll on.

Rudeboyelvis 09-29-2012 09:56 AM

I'm pretty sure that I read Oaklawn now has a back up tractor that can pull both the gate and the broken tractor off the course should the primary tractor fail.

cmorioles 09-29-2012 10:48 AM

What is unbelievable is that apparently nobody near the announcer's booth was watching and able to give the announcer a heads up.

Merlinsky 09-29-2012 08:46 PM

http://www.paulickreport.com/news/th...s-eighth-race/

Here's footage of the incident.

PatCummings 09-29-2012 09:00 PM

I've seen several tracks now keep a backup tractor at the gate in case it happens. Think NYRA does this, and I know Parx does.

The announcer is almost assuredly not going to be heard by the jocks...

my miss storm cat 09-29-2012 09:29 PM

How many tracks have warning lights (?) or... what are some of the warning systems that, it seems, should be in place?

National Thoroughbred Racing Association Safety and Integrity Alliance 20122011 Code of Standards

I. Catastrophic Injury Planning and Procedures

Racetrack Members shall plan for and have protocols in place for instances of catastrophic injury to horses during racing and training at Racetrack Members’ racetrack(s) and training facilities.

Such planning shall include, but not be limited to appropriate means of communication to the public, either through the AAEP On-Call Program or AAEP trained spokespersons. Further, racetrack shall have an operable on-track warning system and operating protocols in place for incidents occurring during training hours designed to sufficiently alert and provide notice to personnel on the racetrack.


http://www.ntra.com/images/2012_Code_of_Standards.pdf

hoovesupsideyourhead 10-01-2012 02:16 PM

thats unreal..
 
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9a5_1348984567

cmorioles 10-01-2012 02:21 PM

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48564

GBBob 10-01-2012 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmorioles (Post 893352)

My introduction into horse ownership..that should have told me something right there

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f25rYfahlfA

Kasept 10-01-2012 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 893363)
My introduction into horse ownership..that should have told me something right there

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f25rYfahlfA

Bob..

Talked about it on the air the other day after the Hoosier incident!


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