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Thepaindispenser 08-16-2012 08:41 PM

Obama 2008 vs. Obama 2012
 
While accepting the Democrat Presidential nomination in 2008 Obama said, "If you don't any have fresh ideas, then you use stale tactics to scare voters. If you don't have a record to run on, then you paint your opponent as someone people should run from. You make a big election about small things."

Who know at the time but he was giving us a preview of how he was going to run his 2012 campaign.

pointman 08-16-2012 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser (Post 883965)
While accepting the Democrat Presidential nomination in 2008 Obama said, "If you don't any have fresh ideas, then you use stale tactics to scare voters. If you don't have a record to run on, then you paint your opponent as someone people should run from. You make a big election about small things."

Who know at the time but he was giving us a preview of how he was going to run his 2012 campaign.

:tro:

bigrun 08-16-2012 09:03 PM


pointman 08-16-2012 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bigrun (Post 883978)


http://www.seattlerex.com/wp-content...alaxy-fail.png

bigrun 08-16-2012 09:52 PM

Yes, much better look of you two sockpuppets...:D





pointman 08-16-2012 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bigrun (Post 883999)
Yes, much better look of you two sockpuppets...:D





Oooooo, thank you for posting the picture I linked to. As usual, you don't have an original thought. Guess that it why you are the Dumber of Dumb and Dumber.

Riot 08-16-2012 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bigrun (Post 883999)
Yes, much better look of you two sockpuppets...:D

I laughed :tro:

geeker2 08-16-2012 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 884000)
Oooooo, thank you for posting the picture I linked to. As usual, you don't have an original thought. Guess that it why you are the Dumber of Dumb and Dumber.

I laughed :tro:

Thepaindispenser 08-17-2012 07:10 AM

Riot if you thought it was funny you would have laughed when the Pointman originally posted it instead of when your pal, who just like you is devoid of original ideas, acted like a 4-year-old on a playground saying I know you are but what am I?

By the way Riot, your silence on your idol Obama's words in 2008 vs. his actions in 2012 is telling as usually when you dont have anything intelligent to say, you resort to personal attacks. Is this one so blatant that you are ignoring it and hoping it goes away? Are you admitting that Obama cannot run on his record?

GBBob 08-17-2012 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser (Post 884034)
Riot if you thought it was funny you would have laughed when the Pointman originally posted it instead of when your pal, who just like you is devoid of original ideas, acted like a 4-year-old on a playground saying I know you are but what am I?

By the way Riot, your silence on your idol Obama's words in 2008 vs. his actions in 2012 is telling as usually when you dont have anything intelligent to say, you resort to personal attacks. Is this one so blatant that you are ignoring it and hoping it goes away? Are you admitting that Obama cannot run on his record?

Well...what is Romney running on? Where is anything? It's easy to find attack points against your opponents...most of us do that in our professions every day. But if I initiate a call with a new client, customer, factory, country, trainer...whatever ( ie citizen) strictly by demeaning and criticizing his current supplier, customer PRESIDENT...I won't get far. Come on Mr Pain...show me you can be something more than Rush Limbaugh on DT

Danzig 08-17-2012 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 884224)
Well...what is Romney running on? Where is anything? It's easy to find attack points against your opponents...most of us do that in our professions every day. But if I initiate a call with a new client, customer, factory, country, trainer...whatever ( ie citizen) strictly by demeaning and criticizing his current supplier, customer PRESIDENT...I won't get far. Come on Mr Pain...show me you can be something more than Rush Limbaugh on DT

don't hold your breath.
and you're right. i praised a competitor to a potential customer-yeah, i got the customer. doesn't always work that way-but i know i'm immediately turned off if the best thing someone else can say is how bad the other guy is. and i know i'm not the only one that feels that way. but unlike in business, negative campaigning works in politics.

GBBob 08-17-2012 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 884225)
don't hold your breath.
and you're right. i praised a competitor to a potential customer-yeah, i got the customer. doesn't always work that way-but i know i'm immediately turned off if the best thing someone else can say is how bad the other guy is. and i know i'm not the only one that feels that way. but unlike in business, negative campaigning works in politics.

Negative campaigning works to get the uneducated voter/swing voter...But my thread was much more directed at The Dispenser...Please sell me on Mr Romney without involving Liberals ( oh..that's idiots..sorry) or President Obama (I mean..oh god..where do I start with your namesw for him)

Come on...Give us 200 words on Mitt for President..Please include foreign policy, the economy, environment, gun control, gay rights, defense spending, NAFTA and Immigration

Thepaindispenser 08-17-2012 10:50 PM

Bob if watched something other than MSNBC and listened to other people than Obama and Axelrod then you would know Romney's agenda. Are you denying Obama's disgraceful and negative campaigning which is in direct contradiction to his 2008 words, which is clearly directed at the stupid voters?

Since you are so big on 200 words, show us that you are man enough to do yourself what you ask others to do (the complete opposite of your liberal elitist idol politicians) and give us 200 words of all positive reasons why one should vote for Obama and I will gladly do the same.

GBBob 08-17-2012 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser (Post 884228)
Bob if watched something other than MSNBC and listened to other people than Obama and Axelrod then you would know Romney's agenda. Are you denying Obama's disgraceful and negative campaigning which is in direct contradiction to his 2008 words, which is clearly directed at the stupid voters?

Since you are so big on 200 words, show us that you are man enough to do yourself what you ask others to do (the complete opposite of your liberal elitist idol politicians) and give us 200 words of all positive reasons why one should vote for Obama and I will gladly do the same.

Actually..I have rarely if ever watched MSNBC as much as I'm sure you don't get all your ammo from FOX..right? I have my own opinion...which, sadly, you don't respect. I don't have to prove sh.t to you...I'm Pro Choice, Anti Gun, Pro Trade, Pro Gay..and on...And, along with many other stances that is why I will ALWAYS vote Democrat..But you came out firing with all the crap so the onus is on you to take this beyond your hatred for Liberals and tell us what Mitt is standing for??...um...without saying the words, Liberal, Obama, Liar or Idiot

Thepaindispenser 08-17-2012 10:59 PM

Just what I thought, you are a typical liberal, expecting others to make sacrifices and do things that you are unwilling to do.

GBBob 08-17-2012 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser (Post 884232)
Just what I thought, you are a typical liberal, expecting others to make sacrifices and do things that you are unwilling to do.

:tro:

Drugs or Coach...it has to be

Thepaindispenser 08-17-2012 11:14 PM

Good comeback, only Riot would possibly think that was clever or funny.

GBBob 08-18-2012 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser (Post 884242)
Good comeback, only Riot would possibly think that was clever or funny.

Unlike you, I have spent many years here talking about why I feel the way I do and you can go back before the last election and see that. I don't have to prove anything about why I vote or feel the way I do. That's one reason someone like Pointman, who I have never met or I really have anything in common with politically, will respect what I write...most of the time. But you aren't for Romney...you just hate Liberals and bring NOTHING to this conversation about what you DO believe in. That's why I simply asked you to explain what Romney believes in and will offer this country without just taking the easy way out, which is lambasting President Obama.

And which you won't do based on your answers above. As Hoss said last week...maybe posting an opinion on a 2 yr old race at Saratoga might give you some creds to post about politics because all you come across as is a Liberal hater..nothing more, nothing less.

Thepaindispenser 08-18-2012 10:52 AM

Bob, I bring nothing to the conversation that you like or agree with, so sorry if I point out the faults, lies, hypocricy, and failures of Obama, as you choose to ignore them.

GBBob 08-18-2012 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser (Post 884313)
Bob, I bring nothing to the conversation that you like or agree with, so sorry if I point out the faults, lies, hypocricy, and failures of Obama, as you choose to ignore them.

You know..I guess if that is your purpose, then so be it. I always assumed that someone against something so vehemently was also a proponent of something also. But..I guess that's not true. Oh well...I like Obama a lot and think he's done a great job under horrible conditions. You don't....I'll agree to disagree


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