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Przytula 07-16-2012 04:39 PM

How do you approach a new meet?
 
With Saratoga and Del Mar opening this week, any tips for handicapping the start of a new meet?

Indian Charlie 07-16-2012 04:59 PM

For Del Mar, go buy yourself a dart board and a blindfold.

alysheba4 07-16-2012 05:45 PM

same with saratoga for the 1st week.

rpncaine 07-16-2012 06:15 PM

For most of the first couple of weeks I'm focusing on Turf races and maybe those trainers who were hot coming out of Belmont.

Oh, and watching for signs of the Kasept train to start rolling too.

asudevil 07-16-2012 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 875461)
For Del Mar, go buy yourself a dart board and a blindfold.

....And a bottle of that Kirkland vodka from Costco. You know, the Grey Goose knock off.

hoovesupsideyourhead 07-17-2012 03:13 AM

go get some jim mazur meet trainer angles for toga...go with the trends..

RockHardTen1985 07-17-2012 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead (Post 875502)
go get some jim mazur meet trainer angles for toga...go with the trends..

Not a fan. Formulator, put the time in and follow Serling and Byk.

steve 07-17-2012 06:01 AM

training over the track

Alabama Stakes 07-17-2012 08:10 AM

bad faves
 
focus on the bad faves at the Spa. only 1 in 3 faves win and 1 in 3 are out of the money. Also vary your first end of the pick 4. If BTW and EL JEFE are on the same guy, this might be where to take a rare stand against, for the sake of value. make it a pick 3, but start with only double digit or better hosses in the first leg

jms62 07-17-2012 08:19 AM

Spa meet is a couple weeks longer so sitting out the first week until you get a gauge on what is working isn't going to kill you. If you need action look for Byks value horses on Top or Andy's Tweets that are 5-1 or better.

Rudeboyelvis 07-17-2012 08:30 AM

Dean Peterson firsters at Del Mar ;)

scat daddy 07-17-2012 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 875529)
Spa meet is a couple weeks longer so sitting out the first week until you get a gauge on what is working isn't going to kill you. If you need action look for Byks value horses on Top or Andy's Tweets that are 5-1 or better.

Puhllleezzz.... dive in yourself, why use their picks?

Scat

10 pnt move up 07-18-2012 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Przytula (Post 875455)
With Saratoga and Del Mar opening this week, any tips for handicapping the start of a new meet?

Del Mar

Don't get caught up in the recent pp's, the surface is so different than HP, and to a greater extent, SA, so they don't have the same correlation regarding performance. There is a greater inefficiency in the pools and opportunity because of this, but its not for the lazy, quick handicapping style.

Riot 07-18-2012 10:50 AM

Saratoga: Watch closely the first week and black book horses likely to come back and win their second race at the end of the meet, when the competition is more a bunch of leftover stuff thrown all together during closing week repeat/2nd chance races.

Przytula 07-18-2012 10:04 PM

Wow, lots of good stuff. Thanks everyone.

RockHardTen1985 07-18-2012 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by scat daddy (Post 875538)
Puhllleezzz.... dive in yourself, why use their picks?

Scat

Please to you... Im to the point where I defer to them for any claiming race. Serling is the goods. I consider myself a MSW, Allowance and Stakes kingpin.

Indian Charlie 07-18-2012 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 875890)
I consider myself a MSW, Allowance and Stakes kingpin.

MSW? As in Municipal Solid Waste?

I like the kingpin thing too. I looked up what that means, and one of the definitions sorta fit you, though I think there was a typo...

A main or large bolt in a central position.

I think the 'b' in bolt was supposed to be a 'd'.

Indian Charlie 07-18-2012 11:14 PM

Oops, I forgot to include a :)

:)

RockHardTen1985 07-19-2012 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 875894)
MSW? As in Municipal Solid Waste?

I like the kingpin thing too. I looked up what that means, and one of the definitions sorta fit you, though I think there was a typo...

A main or large bolt in a central position.

I think the 'b' in bolt was supposed to be a 'd'.

For someone who admits that he is a mush and does not bet because he can't get it right, you certainly continue to talk a lot of ****.
Its been a while now, you won't get another response out of me. Don't waste your time.

Indian Charlie 07-19-2012 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 875905)
For someone who admits that he is a mush and does not bet because he can't get it right, you certainly continue to talk a lot of ****.
Its been a while now, you won't get another response out of me. Don't waste your time.

Being a mush has nothing to do with it.

It has everything to do with you being a POS.

:)


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