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Calzone Lord 06-15-2012 02:24 PM

Belmont 2nd race
 
Some of the shortest exotic payoffs I've ever seen.

http://www1.drf.com/drfPDFChartRaces...=20120615&RN=2


$4.60 winner over 7-to-2 shot third choice -- and the $2 exacta paid $8.20.


Here's a race last week at Belmont where a $4.60 winner over 3-to-1 shot paid a FAR more typical $17.20 in the exacta. Same win price, shorter underneath horse, and smaller field, and the exacta obviously paid more than double.

http://www1.drf.com/drfPDFChartRaces...20120608&RN=99


I guess it pays to look at the exacta will pays at all times. Absolutely no one upstairs could believe those exotic prices.

golfer 06-15-2012 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 869102)
Some of the shortest exotic payoffs I've ever seen.

http://www1.drf.com/drfPDFChartRaces...=20120615&RN=2


$4.60 winner over 7-to-2 shot third choice -- and the $2 exacta paid $8.20.


Here's a race last week at Belmont where a $4.60 winner over 3-to-1 shot paid a FAR more typical $17.20 in the exacta. Same win price, shorter underneath horse, and smaller field, and the exacta obviously paid more than double.

http://www1.drf.com/drfPDFChartRaces...20120608&RN=99


I guess it pays to look at the exacta will pays at all times. Absolutely no one upstairs could believe those exotic prices.

The only explanation I can see is the 1 Master Cip was bet ONLY in the win pool. The DD in races 2 and 3 came back very light also.

Calzone Lord 06-15-2012 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by golfer (Post 869106)
The only explanation I can see is the 1 Master Cip was bet ONLY in the win pool. The DD in races 2 and 3 came back very light also.

Had to be.

The rail horse was hammered early on in the betting.

The first words out of everyones mouth almost simultaneously "those payoffs they're showing have to be for $1 and not $2"

Even at the gypsy tracks with real small pools -- I've never seen anything like that.

blackthroatedwind 06-15-2012 03:35 PM

It was obviously a combination of Master Cip being bet strongly in the win pool but not the exactas, which was obvious the whole way, and the first two being, essentially, coupled horses coming out of the same race.

Indian Charlie 06-15-2012 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 869152)
It was obviously a combination of Master Cip being bet strongly in the win pool but not the exactas, which was obvious the whole way, and the first two being, essentially, coupled horses coming out of the same race.

That, or the runnerup being pounded in the exotics only.

Calzone Lord 06-15-2012 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 869152)
It was obviously a combination of Master Cip being bet strongly in the win pool but not the exactas, which was obvious the whole way, and the first two being, essentially, coupled horses coming out of the same race.

Yeah.

Master Cip (1.55-to-1) over The Kenosha Kid (3.65-to-1) was paying $31.40

The Winner (1.30-to-1) over The Kenosha Kid (3.65-to-1) paid $8.20


Even when a first-time starter, import, or 2nd-time starter in this instance, takes a ton of steam in the win pool ... they normally take a reasonable enough share of it in exactas as well.

9/1 odds on Master Cip and The Kenosha Kid in the quinella. Even money on The Winner in Kenosha Kid in the quinella.

That's as inefficiently bet of a race as I can recall at a major track. A great example as to why you should always check the will-pays.

Calzone Lord 06-15-2012 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 869177)
A great example as to why you should always check the will-pays.

Then again ... a great example of why it can be frustrating to check them ... Belmont's 5th race today.

With 1 minute to post and $107,000 in the exacta pool, the 7,4 exacta was $24.00, it closed at $13.40.

Someone friggen killed it late.


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