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Alan07 06-05-2012 01:12 AM

Belmont Day Undercard Possibles
 
True North H.
Giant Ryan (120)
Smiling Tiger (119)
Hamazing Destiny (117)
Caixa Eletronica (117)
Pacific Ocean (117)
Alma d'Oro (116)
Royal Currier (116)
Ponzi Scheme (116)
Justin Phillip (115)
Crossbow (115)
W.W. Lady's Man (114)

Just A Game S.
Winter Memories
Hungry Island
Dancinginherdreams
Sylvestris
Tapitsfly

Woody Stephens S.
Trinniberg
Currency Swap
Hierro
Bourbon Courage
Hardened Wildcat
Laurie’s Rocket
Power World

Manhattan H.
Boisterous (119)
Brilliant Speed (119)
Al Khali (117)
Hudson Steele (117)
Omyad (117)
Humble and Hungry (116)
Papaw Bodie (116)
Sky Blazer (115)
Desert Blanc (114)
Top Suprize (114)

iamthelurker 06-05-2012 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan07 (Post 866082)
True North H.
Giant Ryan (120)
Smiling Tiger (119)
Hamazing Destiny (117)
Caixa Eletronica (117)
Pacific Ocean (117)
Alma d'Oro (116)
Royal Currier (116)
Ponzi Scheme (116)
Justin Phillip (115)
Crossbow (115)
W.W. Lady's Man (114)

Just A Game S.
Winter Memories
Hungry Island
Dancinginherdreams
La Reine Lionne
Sylvestris
Tapitsfly

Woody Stephens S.
Trinniberg
Currency Swap
Hierro
Bourbon Courage
Hardened Wildcat
Laurie’s Rocket
Power World

Manhattan H.
Boisterous (119)
Brilliant Speed (119)
Al Khali (117)
Hudson Steele (117)
Omyad (117)
Humble and Hungry (116)
Papaw Bodie (116)
Sky Blazer (115)
Desert Blanc (114)
Top Suprize (114)

If so, worst Manhattan in how many years?

RockHardTen1985 06-05-2012 02:34 AM

Where is Emcee??

NTamm1215 06-05-2012 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by iamthelurker (Post 866083)
If so, worst Manhattan in how many years?

The 2008 Manhattan was not good. The winner, Dancing Forever, was a G2 winner who went winless through the rest of his career. Out of Control finished 2nd, and he entered the race off of consecutive out of the money finishes in G1 races in CA and KY. He went winless through the rest of his career. The 3rd place finisher, Pays to Dream, entered off a win in the G2 Dixie at Pimlico and never raced again after being injured in the race.

Better Talk Now was the lone Grade I winner in the field coming in, and he was returning from a trip to Dubai and was already long in the tooth. His rabbit, Shake the Bank, lost the race by just over four lengths.

There were as many subsequent $3,200 claimers (Stream of Gold) in the field as there were subsequent GI winners (Interpatation!).

lemoncrush 06-05-2012 09:57 AM

I've never been able to find video of the 2006 Just a Game stakes when Gorella came from waaaaay back to run down a loose-on-the-lead horse whose name escapes me.
That was a fun race to watch. I believe Casique won the Manhatten that year, too.

Gauchos0522 06-05-2012 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lemoncrush (Post 866125)
I've never been able to find video of the 2006 Just a Game stakes when Gorella came from waaaaay back to run down a loose-on-the-lead horse whose name escapes me.
That was a fun race to watch. I believe Casique won the Manhatten that year, too.

Pommes Frites

blackthroatedwind 06-05-2012 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 866120)
The 2008 Manhattan was not good. The winner, Dancing Forever, was a G2 winner who went winless through the rest of his career. Out of Control finished 2nd, and he entered the race off of consecutive out of the money finishes in G1 races in CA and KY. He went winless through the rest of his career. The 3rd place finisher, Pays to Dream, entered off a win in the G2 Dixie at Pimlico and never raced again after being injured in the race.

Better Talk Now was the lone Grade I winner in the field coming in, and he was returning from a trip to Dubai and was already long in the tooth. His rabbit, Shake the Bank, lost the race by just over four lengths.

There were as many subsequent $3,200 claimers (Stream of Gold) in the field as there were subsequent GI winners (Interpatation!).

Interpatation was eventually running for a tag as well.

cakes44 06-05-2012 02:25 PM

I know I look like an idiot throwing predictions out before PPs are even out, but I love La Reinne Lionne if she goes, and Winter Memories will only up the price. JC broke horrible last race, then kept her wide all the way around the track like she was some 2/5 shot, and the horse still made a decent run.

hockey2315 06-05-2012 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 866191)
I know I look like an idiot throwing predictions out before PPs are even out, but I love La Reinne Lionne if she goes, and Winter Memories will only up the price. JC broke horrible last race, then kept her wide all the way around the track like she was some 2/5 shot, and the horse still made a decent run.

Not sure who I like yet, but I'm curious to see how crazy the Winter Memories support gets. She's just one of those horses that has an illogically strong following - kind of like Union Rags.

parsixfarms 06-05-2012 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 866195)
Not sure who I like yet, but I'm curious to see how crazy the Winter Memories support gets. She's just one of those horses that has an illogically strong following - kind of like Union Rags.

What's not to like about Winter Memories? She's a very talented filly, from a mare who had her own substantial following, with very likeable connections.

cakes44 06-05-2012 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parsixfarms (Post 866197)
What's not to like about Winter Memories? She's a very talented filly, from a mare who had her own substantial following, with very likeable connections.

And she kind of likes to lose at very short prices.

Yes, I know she's 7 for 10, but I believe this will be a nice chance to beat her.

Calzone Lord 06-05-2012 03:50 PM

Big day for Bisnath Parboo (sp?)

hockey2315 06-05-2012 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parsixfarms (Post 866197)
What's not to like about Winter Memories? She's a very talented filly, from a mare who had her own substantial following, with very likeable connections.

I'm speaking purely from a wagering standpoint - she's perpetually overbet and I think her running style leads people to misinterpret her talent level/the trips she's had. She can obviously win Saturday and there's no doubt she's a nice horse, but there's no way she should be shorter than the likes of Hungry Island.

NTamm1215 06-05-2012 04:15 PM

La Reinne Lionne is out according to Chad Brown after pulling a muscle. Zagora, a horse he should have been pointing here all along, is getting a freshening before Saratoga. Poor horse has been asked to run 4x already this year.

Danzig 06-05-2012 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 866215)
La Reinne Lionne is out according to Chad Brown after pulling a muscle. Zagora, a horse he should have been pointing here all along, is getting a freshening before Saratoga. Poor horse has been asked to run 4x already this year.

oh, the humanity.


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