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Calzone Lord 06-01-2012 01:50 PM

Flower Alley with debuters
 
2012: 10-1-2-1 (lone winner took a maiden claiming race with a $12,500 tag at 7-to-1 odds. The two second place finishers both debuted for $7,500 tags -- one at Will Rodgers Downs and the other at Penn National)

2011: 61-4-6-9 (7% wins and just a $0.87 ROI -- I'll Have Another was one of those four winners when he scored at 9/2 odds in a MSW race at Hollywood Park)

2010: 38-1-1-6 (3% wins and just a $0.74 ROI -- the winner took a MSW race at Zia Park and the 2nd place finisher debuted for a tag at Emerald Downs)


He's 6-for-109 with debuters. He's had just two first-time-starters win at the Maiden Special Weight level in the United States. One of them was I'll Have Another, the other is Zia Park debut winner Jam'n Jackson.

Indian Charlie 06-01-2012 02:41 PM

Jam'n Jackson has three siblings. One of those won first time out for sure, another is one for three, and I can't determine if it won first out.

I'd say Flower Alley won't be at 75k if IHA wins the Belmont. I think he's certain to climb up to at least 150k.

Calzone Lord 06-01-2012 02:57 PM

Arch is an awesome sire and broodmare sire.

Better to go looking around for decent Arch mares than waste any money on Flower Alley.

Rupert Pupkin 06-01-2012 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 865298)
Jam'n Jackson has three siblings. One of those won first time out for sure, another is one for three, and I can't determine if it won first out.

I'd say Flower Alley won't be at 75k if IHA wins the Belmont. I think he's certain to climb up to at least 150k.

Flower Alley was standing for $7,500 before the Derby. He's $15,000 right now. Even if he wins the Belmont, he's not going to be more than $30,000 or so.

Indian Charlie 06-01-2012 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 865325)
Flower Alley was standing for $7,500 before the Derby. He's $15,000 right now. Even if he wins the Belmont, he's not going to be more than $30,000 or so.

I was mocking people who thought his fee was going to go through the roof.

Merlinsky 06-02-2012 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 865304)
Arch is an awesome sire and broodmare sire.

Better to go looking around for decent Arch mares than waste any money on Flower Alley.

http://www.paulickreport.com/feature...#ShowPoll_Poll

Interesting interview with Case Clay about things like numbers of mares booked, price, book quality. Starrer just booked to him (Flower Alley, not Case Clay ;) ).


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