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Kasept 02-23-2012 04:18 PM

KY Senate won't allow voters the choice on gaming
 
Shameful KY Senate defeats SB 151, only a bill drafting a constitutional amendment allowing a statewide referendum, by 21-16 vote.

Pitiful.

Kentucky casino bill fails in State Senate
By Matt Hegarty

Coach Pants 02-23-2012 05:15 PM

We don't want drivable roads either! Now git.

GenuineRisk 02-23-2012 05:22 PM

<<"With their flashing lights, free-flowing alcoholic drinks, all-night hours and generally intoxicating atmosphere, casinos are more likely than other gambling options to lead to bad decisions and catastrophic losses for patrons, particularly those prone to problem or compulsive gambling," said the Rev. Patrick Delahanty, executive director of the Catholic Conference of Kentucky.>>

Well, thank goodness the Catholic Church is once again right there to save us from having any fun.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505245_1...ling-proposal/

(prior to it failing the full vote)

Coach Pants 02-23-2012 05:22 PM

Bingo! :D:D:D:D

Kasept 02-23-2012 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 840584)
We don't want drivable roads either! Now git.

:tro:

ateamstupid 02-23-2012 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 840584)
We don't want drivable roads either! Now git.

That's well done.

wac 02-23-2012 08:45 PM

I live in lagrange close to lville and this is unreal. wtf are these people thinking i mean my goodness all the money that we LOSE EVERY FRIGGIN YEAR to these other states. i mean dammit people are going to gamble people are going to lose why does govt feel the need to tell me where i can spend my money???? if i want to lose every friggin dime of my savings playing casino games THATS MY DAMN CHOICE!!!!! not to mention all of the jobs they would bring and the casino at kenty downs would have BLOWN UP that close to nashville. i mean seriously what the hell are these idiots thinking???? i guess its just a bunch of stupid rednecks in the sticks. dammit im pissed right now.

philcski 02-23-2012 08:52 PM

This state is such a joke. I'm actually embarrassed to live here.

herkhorse 02-23-2012 08:59 PM

I drove through Kentucky last week. It's an odd mix of giant HELL IS REAL billboards and XXX adult porn stores, often within a stones throw of each other.

wac 02-23-2012 09:02 PM

i just went to an anti casino site and told them what i thought. I mean how much money is it gonna take for us to lose to friggin Indiana every year, i mean every FRIGGIN year???? People are gonna gamble rightly or wrongly and if a person chooses to piss his money away in a casino that is there right to do so. Should we stop selling alcohol b/c there are so many alcholics in the world??? and that catholic church coming out and being so against it( i was raised catholic) is so hypocritical i mean hell they have bingo games all the time and the picnics they have in the spring fall HELL THERE ARE GAMBLING GAMES THERE!!!!!!dammit im so pissed i cant see straight. im so friggin tired of govt telling me what i can and cant do as long as im not breaking the law who the hell are you to tell me what i do with my money???

joeydb 02-24-2012 06:46 AM

God this is absurd!

People should be able to bet on whatever the hell they want - since betting is a voluntary act, and we have (or had) a free society.

Ridiculous.

dino 02-24-2012 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 840586)
<<"With their flashing lights, free-flowing alcoholic drinks, all-night hours and generally intoxicating atmosphere, casinos are more likely than other gambling options to lead to bad decisions and catastrophic losses for patrons, particularly those prone to problem or compulsive gambling," said the Rev. Patrick Delahanty, executive director of the Catholic Conference of Kentucky.>>

Well, thank goodness the Catholic Church is once again right there to save us from having any fun.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505245_1...ling-proposal/

(prior to it failing the full vote)

Like most people on this site I like to gamble and drink. But the church does have a good point here because we have all seen WAY too many people trash their lives, and the lives of their families, because of gambling. I even imagine there are plenty of us out there that would love to stop but addictive behavior is tough to overcome.
My only point is although I disagree with anyone telling me what's good and bad for me I do feel that they have the right to give their opinion and we have the right to ignore them.
Without bringing politics into it too much I was wondering how this site, which is filled with Liberals like Steve, have a problem with the Catholic Church making comments like this but have no problem with the Obama crew basically telling us we are to stupid to make our own decisions and big government needs to make them for us.

Coach Pants 02-24-2012 07:23 AM

Because they believe that the other party is far worse. They settle and don't really have time to get involved and research the candidates.

We've been conditioned to believe that the two-party system is the only choice we have and we will pay in spades for it.

dino 02-24-2012 07:42 AM

Neither party is any good. I just want the government to stay the hell out of my personal life as well as out of my pockets. We're turning into a society that looks at success as being a bad thing and rewards laziness and failure.
Guess my only point was how come people on this blog have such a tough time with what government in Kentucky is doing yet they have no problem with what Obama is doing like shoving heath care down our throats and allowing illegal alliens to come into the country and get handouts.

GenuineRisk 02-24-2012 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dino (Post 840688)
Neither party is any good. I just want the government to stay the hell out of my personal life as well as out of my pockets. We're turning into a society that looks at success as being a bad thing and rewards laziness and failure.
Guess my only point was how come people on this blog have such a tough time with what government in Kentucky is doing yet they have no problem with what Obama is doing like shoving heath care down our throats and allowing illegal alliens to come into the country and get handouts.

Dino, if you want to start a thread on this in the Politics section, I'd be happy to discuss it with you there (and I mean that sincerely), but this isn't the right section of this site.

That said, for those Kentucky residents that are upset about this decision, let your senators know. If you don't know who your local senator is, take the time to find out (five minutes on Google should do it) and call them. (Don't write an email; it's less effective) Identify yourself as a constituent, be polite, but make your opinion clear- that you feel that the voters deserve to decide if gaming is right for your state and that you won't support a senator that opposes letting you decide for yourself.

And, also very important- if your Senator voted in favor of letting it go to a popular vote, call and let them know you support their vote and you hope they'll vote in favor again the next time the bill comes up (as it will).

I know money controls politics, but it only goes so far, as Carly Fiorino's run for CA governor showed. Ultimately, politicians just want to keep their jobs, and they can only do it if people vote for them. If they really start to fear they'll be voted out, they'll alter their votes accordingly.

If this is important to you, call them. You have the power to affect this.

wac 02-24-2012 10:21 AM

how do you find out hwo your senator voted???

GenuineRisk 02-24-2012 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wac (Post 840713)
how do you find out hwo your senator voted???

Excellent question. Here's a link:

http://www.lrc.ky.gov/record/12rs/SB...te_history.pdf

ateamstupid 02-24-2012 12:55 PM

Their entire economy is based on bourbon and horses and they're just gonna let 50% of that economy starve?

Cannon Shell 02-24-2012 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 840742)
Their entire economy is based on bourbon and horses and they're just gonna let 50% of that economy starve?

Weed and crystal meth are the growth sector of the economy from Mr Williams area of the state.

And let's not pretend that intensive lobbying from across the border casino interests aren't funding Church and "Family" groups in opposition. Where do you think they are getting the money to fund their anti-slots/gambling campaigns?

Riot 02-24-2012 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 840795)
Weed and crystal meth are the growth sector of the economy from Mr Williams area of the state.

And let's not pretend that intensive lobbying from across the border casino interests aren't funding Church and "Family" groups in opposition. Where do you think they are getting the money to fund their anti-slots/gambling campaigns?

:tro:


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