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GPK 02-18-2012 07:11 PM

Friedman Op-Ed
 
I don't comment much down in this forum with you nut jobs, but I came across this piece that is probably one of the better I have read in a while.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/19/op...dman&seid=auto

Walker’s view is simple: “We are not Greece, where the government grew too big, promised too much and waited too long to restructure, but we’re making many of the same mistakes.” Because of the size of the U.S. economy and the dollar’s role as a global reserve currency, we “have some time” to get our house in order, “but we are not immune from the laws of prudent finance.”

MaTH716 02-18-2012 09:08 PM

You are flying to Tampa in about 12 hours and this is how you are preparing? :zz:

GPK 02-18-2012 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 839626)
You are flying to Tampa in about 12 hours and this is how you are preparing? :zz:

Off and on. Study long, study wrong.

pointman 02-18-2012 09:20 PM

Good stuff, Kev.

I'm sure it won't be long before the politics bully comes around to lecture you as to how Obama's plan is unfailingly superior to consideration of any other plan.

GBBob 02-18-2012 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 839632)
Good stuff, Kev.

I'm sure it won't be long before the politics bully comes around to lecture you as to how Obama's plan is unfailingly superior to consideration of any other plan.

Really..P.ussy Pants is going to say that?

I doubt it as that is not how his leaders tell him to follow...bahhhh

Coach Pants 02-19-2012 07:13 AM

Radiohead - Optimistic

:D

Disregard basic math

Acquire sheeple

Danzig 02-19-2012 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GPK (Post 839601)
I don't comment much down in this forum with you nut jobs, but I came across this piece that is probably one of the better I have read in a while.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/19/op...dman&seid=auto

Walker’s view is simple: “We are not Greece, where the government grew too big, promised too much and waited too long to restructure, but we’re making many of the same mistakes.” Because of the size of the U.S. economy and the dollar’s role as a global reserve currency, we “have some time” to get our house in order, “but we are not immune from the laws of prudent finance.”

he is right to refer us to what is occurring in greece.

'wise is he who learns from another's mistakes'.


and at the bottom of the article, which is excellent:

Walker says the president’s budget cuts discretionary spending programs by 1 percent over 10 years, but mandatory spending programs — like Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid and interest on debt — will be left to grow by more than 96 percent over the same decade. As a result, in the year 2022, more than 77 percent of total government outlays will be on auto-pilot, “which is irresponsible and unsustainable.” There will be little left for defense or infrastructure, education and research that build our future.

As for Republicans, says Walker, “they don’t have a plan to restore fiscal sanity either. They’re in denial that we can solve our structural deficit problems with either our current level of taxation — between 15 and 16 percent of G.D.P. — or even with our historical average, about 18 percent of G.D.P. We need more revenue. Our deficit problem is primarily a spending problem, but it is not only a spending problem.”

We need $1 in new revenue for every $3 in spending cuts, excluding interest, says Walker — and that should be accomplished through tax reform that makes our system “simpler, fairer and more competitive,” while generating more revenue. “The Republicans are simply in denial about this.”

The American people are “starved for three things,” concludes Walker: “truth, leadership and solutions.” Unfortunately, the two parties are just offering “laggardship — waiting for something to hit the fan” so they can again just react “without adequate due diligence.”

he is absolutely correct on the bolded.


and the underlined: a perfect description of the current two party system.

we do need real tax reform. and we do need real changes to our 'entitlement' program, in which most people removes 3X more than they put in. it's unsustainable.

Danzig 02-19-2012 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 839636)
Really..P.ussy Pants is going to say that?

I doubt it as that is not how his leaders tell him to follow...bahhhh

i'm figuring he was referring to another poster.

Coach Pants 02-19-2012 10:34 AM

I think you can stop reading after "Walker's view is simple"

Yes. It is. When you overlook the derivatives monstrosity then yes there can be hope for things going back to "normal."

Got news for ya...we're done. The dollar is going to crumble and a new fiat currency will emerge.

Look who is calling the shots in Greece. The international bankers. You think they're going to play nice with us? Tap those shoes. No place like home.

pointman 02-19-2012 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 839687)
i'm figuring he was referring to another poster.

Winner, winner, chicken dinner! :D

Danzig 02-19-2012 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 839717)
Winner, winner, chicken dinner! :D

:D

well, corned beef tonite will have to do!


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