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RockHardTen1985 12-21-2011 11:37 AM

Rail Trip
 
Back with Ron Ellis.
Some people around here are happy.

helicopter11 12-21-2011 12:07 PM

He never should have left Ron Ellis barn in the first place. I am surprised he is still running and burning peoples money. Is he a gelding?

freddymo 12-21-2011 12:11 PM

The horse had a few OK races and is basically a laimo that has done enough.

Linny 12-21-2011 12:13 PM

They should have sent him backin time to run on the synthetic at HOL.

cmorioles 12-21-2011 12:16 PM

Dirt wasn't the problem.

OldDog 12-21-2011 12:45 PM

It seemed to me that he didn't get good trips or have any race luck this year. Hope that Mr. Ellis can get him right.

RockHardTen1985 12-21-2011 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldDog (Post 826662)
It seemed to me that he didn't get good trips or have any race luck this year. Hope that Mr. Ellis can get him right.

This is being really kind. He has not had much run at all this year.

Linny 12-21-2011 01:26 PM

Dirt may not the "the" issue but his form was clearly far better on synthetic. Can't hurt to get him back on his preferred surface.

OldDog 12-21-2011 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 826667)
This is being really kind. He has not had much run at all this year.

'Tis the season. :)

But really, up until his JCGC 5th in October, 2010 (top 3 finishers Haynesfield, Blame & Fly Down, pretty good company), he had finished in the money every time, so when I look at what has happened since then (4-0-2-0) I try to find a reason. Or perhaps an excuse. In June he gets headed by Friend Or Foe in the Easy Goer. So far so good. In August's Whitney he gets bumped at the start, goes 3 wide and so yes, gets beaten again by some pretty good company, never really recovering from the bad start. In September's Pot O'Luck he gets caught up in a speed duel, but still manages to finish second, but then in November he stumbles at the start and loses Dominguez. So I feel like he just needs some race luck, and maybe some careful race placement, to get back on track.

my miss storm cat 12-21-2011 08:25 PM

The only track giveaway that I ever wanted (besides the SA calendar) was the picture of Rail Trip winning the 2009 Hollywood Gold Cup. :)

I keep it rolled up in my desk (I don't have much horsie stuff out because everyone in my family insists that it's cruel). :rolleyes:

cmorioles 12-22-2011 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linny (Post 826668)
Dirt may not the "the" issue but his form was clearly far better on synthetic. Can't hurt to get him back on his preferred surface.

We'll find out I guess. How do we know it is his preferred surface? He never ran on dirt while "in form". Something is amiss, and I doubt a surface switch is going to help.

cakes44 12-22-2011 07:18 AM

He'll run a huge race off a layoff for Ellis, then you won't see him forever.

Indian Charlie 12-22-2011 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 826848)
He'll run a huge race off a layoff for Ellis, then you won't see him forever.

I'm surprised he wasn't entered for the Malibu.

freddymo 12-22-2011 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 826857)
I'm surprised he wasn't entered for the Malibu.

Wow

RockHardTen1985 12-22-2011 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 826867)
Wow

I think hes messing around.

Indian Charlie 12-22-2011 11:36 AM

He wanted to enter Declan's Moon in the Malibu when he was a 4yo.

Kasept 12-22-2011 12:14 PM

I thought Siegel had a legitimate Malibu player in Redeemed but she insisted when on the show they were aiming at the Donn. With the way this race came up, you would think he'd have had a big shot cutting back and closing into this group.

my miss storm cat 05-26-2012 07:21 PM

Betfair Hollywood Park - May 28, 2012

Race 8 - 4:41 PM
Los Angeles H. (Grade III)

1 Rail Trip (KY) 7/G L J Valdivia, Jr. 120 R W Ellis
2 Dancing in Silks (CA) 7/G L M Gutierrez 114 A K Saavedra
3 Sway Away (KY) 4/C L M Garcia 117 J Bonde
4 Centralinteligence (KY) 4/G L J Rosario 114 R W Ellis
5 Don Tito (FL) 5/H L K Krigger 115 J W Sadler
6 Camp Victory (VA) 5/G L J Talamo 118 M R Mitchell
7 Roman Threat (KY) 4/G L R Bejarano 118 B Baffert
8 M One Rifle (CA) 6/G L M E Smith 115 B Headley

classhandicapper 05-27-2012 01:13 PM

Rail Trip clearly had issues over and above surface preference and quality of competition out west vs east.

IMO, he was clearly a very good horse when Ellis had him.

What he has left is anyone's guess, but they usually don't have as much left after all the problems he's had. I'm actually hoping he can recover some good form. The more the merrier.

OldDog 05-28-2012 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 864004)
Betfair Hollywood Park - May 28, 2012

Race 8 - 4:41 PM
Los Angeles H. (Grade III)

1 Rail Trip (KY) 7/G L J Valdivia, Jr. 120 R W Ellis
2 Dancing in Silks (CA) 7/G L M Gutierrez 114 A K Saavedra
3 Sway Away (KY) 4/C L M Garcia 117 J Bonde
4 Centralinteligence (KY) 4/G L J Rosario 114 R W Ellis
5 Don Tito (FL) 5/H L K Krigger 115 J W Sadler
6 Camp Victory (VA) 5/G L J Talamo 118 M R Mitchell
7 Roman Threat (KY) 4/G L R Bejarano 118 B Baffert
8 M One Rifle (CA) 6/G L M E Smith 115 B Headley

That's a nice group! Glad you posted it or I might not have seen it.


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