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Alan07 11-20-2011 05:43 PM

hollywood cancels last 3
 
cancelled due to safety concerns of jockeys with the racing surface.

helicopter11 11-20-2011 05:44 PM

Refunds on the Pick 4, Pick 6?

blackthroatedwind 11-20-2011 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by helicopter11 (Post 819052)
Refunds on the Pick 4, Pick 6?

What do you think?

arizonadave 11-20-2011 05:58 PM

yes, refunds on both.

helicopter11 11-20-2011 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by arizonadave (Post 819057)
yes, refunds on both.

Thank you!

MaTH716 11-20-2011 07:10 PM

Yay for all weather track...................:zz:

VOL JACK 11-20-2011 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 819082)
Yay for all weather track...................:zz:

:tro:

Calzone Lord 11-21-2011 07:54 AM

Hesz is up in arms ...

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Because the final threes races being canceled was the big news at Hollywood Park today, there wasn't a lot of buzz about it, but the horse player got screwed again.

Es Luna, beaten 66 1/4 lengths in his only start, returned off a seven month + layoff for the sneaky Silverio Martinez barn. When the horses were nearing the gate for race four (The opener of the Pick Six in which there was a carryover) and the horses for race five were leaving the receiving barn, Es Luna was suddenly announced as a first time gelding. Obviously there was NO time for a handicapper/player who considers that information pivotal to adjust his bet.

Needless to say, Es Luna comes from off the pace, gets up near the wire to the tune of $58.60....

Will Silverio Martinez get fined the $1000 penalty for failure to announce a first time gelding in orderly fashion, yes. Did the gambler/horseplayer get totally screwed?? YES!!!

I believe in the future, If a horse has NOT BEEN announced as a first time gelding by the time they reach the receiving barn and it has to be announced THAT late, (like Es Luna today), they should be ordered scratched.

Every owner/trainer has been made aware of the first time gelding rule, and what happened today was an outrage. The $1000 fine seems light in review of the payoffs and the money that likely was made by the connections.

in addition, this leaves a bad taste with the horse player, who is entitled to dissect this information how he chooses.

Martinez had 72 hours to notify the stewards, Horse ID or the racing office when the overnight and/or PP's came out that there had been a mistake and Es Luna had been gelded.

The rule has been in place for far too long, and if a trainer cannot abide by it, then his horse should not be allowed to compete.

ellpol 11-21-2011 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 819158)
Hesz is up in arms ...

Wherever this was written and by who it makes sense to me. Cheating for sure is going on and this is another example of it. I stopped betting Cali 2 years ago not that they miss my meager contributions.

Calzone Lord 11-21-2011 08:19 AM

The horse got beat 66+ lengths going just 4.5 furlongs in his only race...but was pretty much eased from the outset.

Here's the replay of it -- he's #2.

http://www1.drf.com/displayVideo.do?...=D&country=USA


For whatever reason -- unlike in the debut -- he took some money yesterday... and the money was right.

Danzig 11-21-2011 08:50 AM

something rotten in the state of california

Rudeboyelvis 11-21-2011 09:51 AM

A certain track announcer is conspicuously absent. Surely he has an opinion regarding the matter.

Danzig 11-21-2011 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 819168)
A certain track announcer is conspicuously absent. Surely he has an opinion regarding the matter.

he's damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. i don't know that i'd be too anxious to post here if i was a public figure. it's a thankless task.


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