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Ohio voters overturn Republican union-busting law

Good for Ohio voters! Well done!

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COLUMBUS, Ohio — A year after Republicans swept legislatures across the country, voters in Ohio delivered their verdict on a centerpiece of the conservative legislative agenda, striking down a law that restricted public workers’ rights to bargain collectively.

The landslide vote to repeal the bill — 63 to 37, according to preliminary results from Ohio’s secretary of state — was a slap to Ohio’s governor, John R. Kasich, a prominent Republican who had championed the law as a tool for cities to cut costs. The bill passed in March, on a wave of enthusiasm among Republicans fresh from midterm victories. A similar bill also passed in Wisconsin.

Update: and the Mississippi "fertilized eggs are persons" state constitution amendment (meant to outlaw any abortion or birth control, and challenge Roe v Wade) is going down to crashing overwhelming defeat.

Showing true bi-partisanship Ohioans also voted to opt out of Obamacare but you left that out? ;)

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 816362)

Mississippi. :tro:

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 816396)

Showing true bi-partisanship Ohioans also voted to opt out of Obamacare but you left that out? ;)

No, they didn't vote to "opt out of Obamacare". They did vote to repeal an actual union-busting law.

Arizonians recalled and kicked out of office the Republican Senate president who hates immigrants and passed the restrictive "papers please" immigration bill. Buh bye. He's gone.

A good day for freedom and rights :-)

You obviously haven't read the resolution you are referring to, have you? You're being told what to think again by your poor sources?

Who cares about a barely-winning vote that was an open-ended and non-specific referendum, only symbolic, is unable to be put into law, and was only on the ballot for the GOP to try and use in the future during appeals to the Supreme Court regarding the PPACA?

Especially when another conservative Court of Appeals, the DC, just two days ago upheld the mandate portion of the PPACA as constitutional?

BTW: every state has the ability to "opt out" of "Obamacare" - it's written into the law. You've been told that before, I guess you just continue to choose to deliberately ignore it. States that "opt out" do not receive federal funds, but must set up the same, or a better, system on their own. That's in the law, too. But that's not what the Ohio referendum on health insurance was about.

The Obama administration wants the Supreme Court to rule on the mandate portion of the PPACA before the next election. I hope they do.

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November 8, 2011 9:21 PM
By The Associated Press NEDRA PICKLER (Associated Press)

WASHINGTON - (AP) -- A conservative-leaning appeals court panel on Tuesday upheld the constitutionality of President Barack Obama's health care law, as the Supreme Court prepares to consider this week whether to resolve conflicting rulings over the law's requirement that all Americans buy health care insurance.

A panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia issued a split opinion upholding the lower court's ruling that found Congress did not overstep its authority in requiring people to have insurance or pay a penalty on their taxes, beginning in 2014. The requirement is the most controversial requirement of Obama's signature domestic legislative achievement and the focus of conflicting opinions from judges across the country. The Supreme Court could decide as early as Thursday during a closed meeting of the justices whether to accept appeals from some of those earlier rulings.

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 816493)

Who cares about a barely-winning vote that was an open-ended and non-specific referendum, only symbolic, is unable to be put into law, and was only on the ballot for the GOP to try and use in the future during appeals to the Supreme Court regarding the PPACA?.

Yea who cares what the people of Ohio think/want. :zz:

Papa Obama knows best.

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 816499)

Yea who cares what the people of Ohio think/want. :zz:

Papa Obama knows best.

You still haven't read the resolution, have you? You don't have a clue what it actually says.

Papa Obama" didn't pass the law. Your House and your Senate did. And your Supreme Court will decide it's legality.

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 816362)

Good for Ohio voters! Well done!

Update: and the Mississippi "fertilized eggs are persons" state constitution amendment (meant to outlaw any abortion or birth control, and challenge Roe v Wade) is going down to crashing overwhelming defeat.

Interesting! Many so-called experts were predicting a close vote on this amendment, the general consensus being it would pass. While I have said often that I oppose legalized abortion philosophically, I see no way to put the horses back in the barn at this point and feel the decision must be left to the woman while concentrating on teaching personal responsibility for BOTH men and women. A complex and emotional issue which has long since gone from a philosophical debate to a political one.

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 816502)

Papa Obama" didn't pass the law. Your House and your Senate did. And your Supreme Court will decide it's legality.

The house and senate passed it w/o even reading the damn thing. Some democratic senators Conyers for one said he needed a lawyer to understand it.

Considering the horrific failure this Pres has been we need to backtrack and review most if not all his decisions in addition to his green energy loans.

SS and Medicare is already breaking this country's back. Obamacare will kill it.

What's next? A mandate that all new jobs be union?

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 816510)

The house and senate passed it w/o even reading the damn thing.

You bitch about it constantly, and it's beyond obvious you've never read the damn thing, either.

Well at least payments made by Medicare, bought this year's Horse of the Year as a $8.5 million birthday present! Yippeee! :wf

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 816515)

Well at least payments made by Medicare, bought this year's Horse of the Year as a $8.5 million birthday present! Yippeee! :wf

More power to them. Nothing wrong with being wealthy.

Biggest lobby in Washington, the for-profit healthcare industry.

Seems rather stupid on the part of the consumer, doesn't it? You hire a for-profit firm, you give them the sole power to say "yes" or "no" to paying for your health care per the contract you've signed, yet they can void the contract at any time, and they only make money when they don't pay for the health care you've hired them to give you?

Weird consumers, America. Protecting and encouraging the very industry denying them health care.

Most medical bankruptcies are people that have health insurance. Why is that?

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 816516)

Most medical bankruptcies are people that have health insurance. Why is that?

Wouldn't have anything to do with the fact most people have insurance would it?

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 816523)

Wouldn't have anything to do with the fact most people have insurance would it?

Gee. If they have insurance to pay for their healthcare, why does getting sick and paying for healthcare bankrupt them?

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 816525)

Gee. If they have insurance to pay for their healthcare, why does getting sick and paying for healthcare bankrupt them?

because of ceilings on the policy which keeps premiums at manageable levels.

BTW Medicare and Medicade have no such ceilings and look at the financial successes they've become.

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 816528)

because of ceilings on the policy which keeps premiums at manageable levels.

So you agree that insurance companies should not actually pay for health care, as they've agreed to in the contracts they sign with their customers? :zz:

You are a lobbyists dream - voting against your own interests :D

Good thing the PPACA exists. Insurance reforms for consumer abuse. It's a start.

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 816530)

Good thing the PPACA exists. Insurance reforms for consumer abuse. It's a start.

As I've said many times and consistently before, take out all taxes and penalties and we're all good. Of course PPACA is all about taxes and penalties or those provisions would have been removed. The cost of court cases, appeals, including to the supreme court going on all over the country would have been saved when we're in need of saving.

We finally agree!:tro::tro: