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GPK 09-12-2006 02:39 PM

Belmont Turf
 
anyone heard any updates??? Gonna go over tomorrows card tonight and would like to have some kind of heads up.

Thanks in advance.

gales0678 09-12-2006 02:52 PM

kev - no rain here the last couple of days

Nostradamus 09-12-2006 02:57 PM

They are having all sorts of problems with it. Somebody left it too long and put too much water in it on Saturday. It looked awful and jockeys were complaining.

GPK 09-12-2006 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
kev - no rain here the last couple of days

Yeah Martin, but the turf has been screwy in a few places from what they have been saying. Very inconsistent and the roots are not very deep from what I understand. Just curious as to which races will be ON the turf tomorrow.

Nostradamus 09-12-2006 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
Yeah Martin, but the turf has been screwy in a few places from what they have been saying. Very inconsistent and the roots are not very deep from what I understand. Just curious as to which races will be ON the turf tomorrow.

They allowed them to work over it on Sunday morning (English Channel was on it), so it can't be terrible. I think they are have problems with the one course and not the other for some reason.

GPK 09-12-2006 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Nostradamus
They allowed them to work over it on Sunday morning (English Channel was on it), so it can't be terrible. I think they are have problems with the one course and not the other for some reason.


Yeah...I got his work notice.

Would love for someone to post if they hear anything for tomorrows races. Thanks.

Nostradamus 09-12-2006 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
Yeah...I got his work notice.

Would love for someone to post if they hear anything for tomorrows races. Thanks.

The weather is fine. They will all be on the turf. They have had a couple days to deal with the problem and it will probably be fast and firm tomorrow.

GPK 09-12-2006 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Nostradamus
The weather is fine. They will all be on the turf. They have had a couple days to deal with the problem and it will probably be fast and firm tomorrow.


Thanks....will handicap accordingly and make any adjustments if needed tomorrow.

ForestofWonders 09-12-2006 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
Yeah...I got his work notice.

Would love for someone to post if they hear anything for tomorrows races. Thanks.

from this article on drf.com, it sounds like they are limiting the number of races on the turf in the immediate future. One horse euthanized after a race, another bruised a foot working out...


Both turf courses cause for concern
By DAVID GRENING
ELMONT, N.Y. - Concerns over the condition of both turf courses at Belmont Park prompted New York Racing Association officials to move three of Sunday's five scheduled grass races to the dirt and will limit the number of turf races carded for the immediate future.Jockeys expressed concern about the turf after the fifth race on Saturday's card, one in which Open Debate, a 3-year-old maiden trained by Allen Jerkens, suffered a broken leg and had to be euthanized. However, the jockeys agreed to ride the remainder of Saturday's grass races, which included two Grade 1 stakes. Their concerns prompted NYRA management to announce late Saturday that three of Sunday's races would be moved to the dirt. One turf race was kept on each course.

NYRA management said the turf courses - which hadn't been used since late July - hadn't properly dried out from a rainy Labor Day weekend and some additional showers on Sept. 5. It has not rained in this area since that time.

John Passero, NYRA's director of racing surfaces, said all the rain created a situation where the roots were shallow, and thus easily torn. Passero labeled the turf courses "good" for Friday and Saturday when a total of nine turf races were run. Four of the five races carded for Sunday were for the Widener, or outer turf course. Passero said the inner course dries better than the outer course.

There are three turf races carded for both Wednesday and Thursday.

"With the heavy rains and cool temperatures last week coupled with the shallow roots this time of year, it resulted in the turf courses not holding up as well as we had hoped," Passero said.

However, jockey Richard Migliore didn't necessarily agree that it was all weather related.

"If it was rain, it would be soft all the way around," Migliore said. "But how come it's good to firm turf for an eighth of a mile, then it's soft to yielding the next eighth of a mile, then it's hard for a sixteenth of a mile, and then it's mushy? There's no consistency to it and we're ripping it up. We're bringing [large] clods up and horses are bobbling and stumbling all over the place."
Trainer John Kimmel walked the outer course on Sunday and thought it was softer the further out he walked on it. One of the three horses Kimmel ran on the turf Saturday came back with a bruised foot.

Passero cut the grass and rolled it in an effort to tighten it up on Sunday. On Monday, he planned to have the rail put out 10 feet on both the Widener and inner turf course.

While dry conditions were expected to be prevalent through Wednesday, there is a 60 percent chance of showers on Thursday and a 30 percent chance on Friday.


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