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Calzone Lord 09-19-2011 05:53 PM

15 Best BC Classics
 
As chosen by me -- when I was drunk late one night and testing some video mixing stuff on my Computer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g495gyBrtzk


No Ghostzapper clip on the BC's website so no video of him.

Dahoss 09-19-2011 06:05 PM

The thing that really sticks out to me is how much better Durkin was at calling the big races than Denman.

Getaway 09-19-2011 09:19 PM

Nice videos but in my heart I want Tiznow's 2001 classic to be higher on the list...maybe it's just sentimental but in my mind it's one of the best regardless.

my miss storm cat 09-19-2011 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 807768)
The thing that really sticks out to me is how much better Durkin was at calling the big races than Denman.

You'd have to sprout wings to be as good as Trevah...:p

GenuineRisk 09-19-2011 09:57 PM

That was fun; thanks for sharing! I'm sure someone would have posted GZ's BC on YouTube. There's software available so you can download videos from YouTube if you decide to re-edit and put in footage from his race.

cmorioles 09-19-2011 11:39 PM

Top 15? What have they run, 27?
Next week's edition, the best 98 Kentucky Derbys ever!

How about the worst 5 winners ever of the Classic:

1) Volponi
2) Alphabet Soup
3) Cat Thief
4) Arcangues
5) Concern in a photo over Black Tie Affair

cmorioles 09-19-2011 11:40 PM

It still sounds like Denman is crying when Zenyatta hangs.

Cannon Shell 09-19-2011 11:51 PM

Hard to believe the 1st Classic didn't make the cut

Calzone Lord 09-20-2011 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 807871)
Hard to believe the 1st Classic didn't make the cut

It was more than a full second slower than Princess Rooney's BC Distaff win at the same 10f distance.

I tried to account highly for drama and excitement of the actual race -- but the '84 BC Classic (and last years) were sundial jobs.

Calzone Lord 09-20-2011 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmorioles (Post 807866)
Top 15? What have they run, 27?
Next week's edition, the best 98 Kentucky Derbys ever!

How about the worst 5 winners ever of the Classic:

1) Volponi
2) Alphabet Soup
3) Cat Thief
4) Arcangues
5) Concern in a photo over Black Tie Affair

I was drunk and testing equipment. I also made a Randy Moss tribute.

By the way, Alphabet Soup ran awesome in the BC Classic and ran super awesome against Gentlemen in his final career race. He would trot over Cat Thief and Arcangues.

Gate Dancer 09-20-2011 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 807871)
Hard to believe the 1st Classic didn't make the cut

Have to agree with that.............(see avatar) Also, forgot how Unbridled had to 'thread the needle' in his victory. Great stuff!!!!!

slotdirt 09-20-2011 08:32 AM

So lost somewhere in 1989 was that Blushing John could run a little.

Revidere 09-20-2011 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slotdirt (Post 807904)
So lost somewhere in 1989 was that Blushing John could run a little.

one of the best race calls of all time.

OldDog 09-20-2011 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 807768)
The thing that really sticks out to me is how much better Durkin was at calling the big races than Denman.

I like Denman, but Durkin blows me away. He has raised goosebumps on me more times than Stephen King and M. Night Shyamalan combined.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 807871)
Hard to believe the 1st Classic didn't make the cut

That’s a favorite of mine. But so much of choosing favorites can be subjective. I enjoyed the hell out of watching this video. Well done, CL.

By the way, note the camera work on #9 (2000, Tiznow & Giant’s Causeway). Instead of shooting from a fixed mount, the camera moved parallel to the stretch, showing much more dramatically the speed at which the horses are moving. I’d like to see more of that.

Thunder Gulch 09-20-2011 03:14 PM

I'm going to agree with the rest of you. Each and every one of Durkin's calls makes my blood get going. Total raw excitement as they run down the stretch.

hoovesupsideyourhead 09-21-2011 09:18 AM

sorry drugs but i just re watched this gem

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zwL9...eature=related

its your finest work..thanks it made my day again..:tro::tro:

Clip-Clop 09-21-2011 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead (Post 808078)
sorry drugs but i just re watched this gem

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zwL9...eature=related

its your finest work..thanks it made my day again..:tro::tro:

Holy Crap that is funny.

FATPIANO 09-21-2011 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmorioles (Post 807866)
Top 15? What have they run, 27?
Next week's edition, the best 98 Kentucky Derbys ever!

How about the worst 5 winners ever of the Classic:

1) Volponi
2) Alphabet Soup
3) Cat Thief
4) Arcangues
5) Concern in a photo over Black Tie Affair

You can knock Volponi, But I touted him 1 week before the Cup was run, his form said he was going to run a monster race and he did. one of my best longshot picks ever

JJP 09-21-2011 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 807874)
It was more than a full second slower than Princess Rooney's BC Distaff win at the same 10f distance.

I tried to account highly for drama and excitement of the actual race -- but the '84 BC Classic (and last years) were sundial jobs.

I have to agree with Cannon Shell. The first Classic put the Breeders Cup on the map. The final time may have been slower than Princess Rooney's win (a great mare, at that) but the internal fractions were much faster. That race was loaded with speed; Preicisionist and Slew O Gold's stablemate, Mugatea pushing Wild Again. Slew O Gold, a tremendous horse in his own right, trying to battle between horses, and the rogue Preakness winner, Gate Dancer surging on the outside in a 3 way photo. Pat Day has said that this race really propelled his career. One of the best races I've ever seen.

Indian Charlie 09-21-2011 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJP (Post 808087)
I have to agree with Cannon Shell. The first Classic put the Breeders Cup on the map. The final time may have been slower than Princess Rooney's win (a great mare, at that) but the internal fractions were much faster. That race was loaded with speed; Preicisionist and Slew O Gold's stablemate, Mugatea pushing Wild Again. Slew O Gold, a tremendous horse in his own right, trying to battle between horses, and the rogue Preakness winner, Gate Dancer surging on the outside in a 3 way photo. Pat Day has said that this race really propelled his career. One of the best races I've ever seen.

I wouldn't put much stock in this list.

Not only did he leave off the initial BCC (a great race to watch as a fan, maybe not such a great race for all time greats) race, but he ranked the Zenyatta win better than AP Indy's win.

Clearly he relied too heavily on figures.


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