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tjfla 09-11-2011 12:04 PM

Prayer For Relief
 
Is now 3-3 on dirt and has WON 3 of the 2nd Tier Derbies.

What are the chances he goes in the Classic and races next year??

Hopefully we don't see it like last year where decent 3 yr old horses(Concord Point,LaL) are retired instead of running when they are 4

hockey2315 09-11-2011 12:08 PM

Didn't Concord Point get injured? I'm sure they would've preferred to up his value if they could've.

PatCummings 09-11-2011 12:24 PM

Prayer For Relief and Stay Thirsty are seemingly the only two 3YO this year who have put consecutive top efforts together. Interesting to see how they get on from here.

Seattleallstar 09-11-2011 01:28 PM

I think they shouldnt get too crazy with Prayer for Relief even if he has been winning, they should try to avoid any of the top competition until they finally have to, other than that they should keep managing him the way they have been, pick off these big money stakes races with the 2nd tier comp. He looked like he was going to get passed in the stretch but he managed to find some extra kick to finally pull away in the end. Of course he was allowed to walk on the lead, if he was any kind of a racehorse he should of won with what he was allowed to get away with. Hes not the best or the most talented, but he will win his fair share of grades stakes races with good money.

Zayat has another horse like him too the 3 yr old Joe Vann with Pletcher.

helicopter11 09-11-2011 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar (Post 806236)
I think they shouldnt get too crazy with Prayer for Relief even if he has been winning, they should try to avoid any of the top competition until they finally have to, other than that they should keep managing him the way they have been, pick off these big money stakes races with the 2nd tier comp. He looked like he was going to get passed in the stretch but he managed to find some extra kick to finally pull away in the end. Of course he was allowed to walk on the lead, if he was any kind of a racehorse he should of won with what he was allowed to get away with. Hes not the best or the most talented, but he will win his fair share of grades stakes races with good money.

Zayat has another horse like him too the 3 yr old Joe Vann with Pletcher.

Thats the type of thinking is why we never get to see good/decent horses compete with each other. Ya, lets avoid all competition and just run in very easy spots so they can say he is multiple-graded stakes winner.

Seattleallstar 09-11-2011 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by helicopter11 (Post 806240)
Thats the type of thinking is why we never get to see good/decent horses compete with each other. Ya, lets avoid all competition and just run in very easy spots so they can say he is multiple-graded stakes winner.

yeah well money talks in this game, even if the owners of the horses are among the richest people in the world. Plus Prayer's groom and people who are with him get some of that money too, those are the people that need it the most.

NTamm1215 09-11-2011 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seattleallstar (Post 806236)
I think they shouldnt get too crazy with Prayer for Relief even if he has been winning, they should try to avoid any of the top competition until they finally have to, other than that they should keep managing him the way they have been, pick off these big money stakes races with the 2nd tier comp. He looked like he was going to get passed in the stretch but he managed to find some extra kick to finally pull away in the end. Of course he was allowed to walk on the lead, if he was any kind of a racehorse he should of won with what he was allowed to get away with. Hes not the best or the most talented, but he will win his fair share of grades stakes races with good money.

Zayat has another horse like him too the 3 yr old Joe Vann with Pletcher.

Don't EVER compare Prayer for Relief to Joe Vann.

Indian Charlie 09-11-2011 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 806261)
Don't EVER compare Prayer for Relief to Joe Vann.

You really don't like comparisons involving Joe Vann, do ya?

helicopter11 09-11-2011 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar (Post 806248)
yeah well money talks in this game, even if the owners of the horses are among the richest people in the world. Plus Prayer's groom and people who are with him get some of that money too, those are the people that need it the most.

You think these multi-billionaires are in this game because they want to give money to thier grooms?? Do you really think these owners are in this game because they can make a profit off of purse money??

Indian Charlie 09-11-2011 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tjfla (Post 806226)
Is now 3-3 on dirt and has WON 3 of the 2nd Tier Derbies.

What are the chances he goes in the Classic and races next year??

Hopefully we don't see it like last year where decent 3 yr old horses(Concord Point,LaL) are retired instead of running when they are 4

http://www.drf.com/news/breeders-cup...s-major-target

Seattleallstar 09-11-2011 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by helicopter11 (Post 806266)
You think these multi-billionaires are in this game because they want to give money to thier grooms?? Do you really think these owners are in this game because they can make a profit off of purse money??

well they arent in the game to lose money either, but everyone does. The comment about the grooms, is that hey why would they run in a tougher spot for less or the same amount of money. When there is a half million dollar race with a bunch of cupcakes, ready for the taking. They made $300k without throwing their horse in the deep end of the water, that pretty damn good to me


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