Randy Moss - He's done enough
 

I can't believe teams ignored the dazzling blocking skills he displayed in Tennessee last year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkEwFUMTATk

Chris Carter today:

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=6824245

Moss was in Cleveland today meeting with Holmgren...

Chris said talent wise, he was the best receiver he's ever seen. Said when he had his mind and body right and wanted to do something, there's been no other receiver that could do what Randy could do on a football field. I agree with him.

hahaha

:tro: Fuggin' classic Coach

The young Moss was an athletic sensation -- more so than any other player I've ever seen in the NFL by far.



* Speed (as fast as anyone)

* Size (6'5" with an incredible wing-span)

* Body control (best I've ever seen - it made his "strike-zone" huge)



* Hands (Incredible hands. T. O. drops routine short passes - when Moss dropped anything it was almost always from worrying about getting hit)

* Leaping ability

* Endurance (Most guys would be gassed by the 2nd quarter from all the deep vertical routes he ran)


Sure - he didn't have the body type to work underneath and go over the middle ... but he would draw more double teams near the goal-line than any WR in history - and he almost certainly drew more 40+ yard pass interference calls than any wideout ever .. and you don't see those on his stat sheets.

Too bad he wasn't a team player or a winner. Those intangibles matter.





Jerry Rice > Randy Moss

OOOOOOOOOO




Paul Warfield >est.

So he catches a TD to put his team up in the Super Bowl but because of a miraculous play between Manning and Tyree and a blown coverage by the db that allowed Burress to score and beat them, that's the difference between him having a ring and being a winner and not and being a loser?

A winner always gives his best even when things aren't going his way.


A loser gives his best when things are going his way;and quits when they are not going...said way.

Yes it's called karma.

This is very true. I just think that too often in team sports, people are labeled as winners or losers based on championships won when so many factors that are beyond their control play a large part in whether they win or not. As I mentioned with Moss, without that miracle pass to Tyree, Moss has a ring now. Did Kevin Garnett suddenly become a winner when he won or did he become better? Dirk Nowitzki is not better now than he has been and he wasn't a loser before. Is Alex Rodriguez a winner now? Trent Dilfer is a winner and Dan Marino a loser?

I do follow you on this title/no title business.


Pants need his head examined on that issue he always tries to sneak through.

The "ring" stuff is nonsense in football.

I understand why they try and use it for the quarterback. The quarterback touches the ball every offensive snap - and has a chance to audible pre-snap based on defensive looks.

the game is 40% offense, 40% defense, and 20% special teams...and with 11 friggen people on the field at all times.

In basketball - you have the same five guys going both ways - it's the only team sport where "ring" means anything.

In individual sports - championships are everything.

He was a colossal loser/f.ucktard with talent. His talent made him special and he squandered it because he has NOTHING upstairs.

A quitting ret.arded country bumpkin.

Much better.