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hi_im_god 07-28-2011 12:55 AM

would repubicans accept a 2nd obama term as legitimate?
 
just a meaningless poll.

i think it's moderatly unlikely he's re-elected given the economy but if it happens what are the chances the opposition accepts him as the legitimate leader of the country for a 2nd term?

ArlJim78 07-28-2011 01:09 AM

moot point, Obama will be flushed in a landslide.

but to your question, what do you consider acceptance?
I mean unless there was something illegal or improper about the vote count that could be contested in court, what are they to do? draft a resolution saying "we don't accept the president"?
they would simply do what they are doing now which is to shut down his radical agenda.

the gop will get the senate next time, so even if obama pulled some hail mary and got another term, he would be reduced to being even more of a bystander than he is now. he'd probably love it, nothing but vacations, golfing, and speeches while the GOP fixes the mess we're in.

hi_im_god 07-28-2011 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArlJim78 (Post 795367)
moot point, Obama will be flushed in a landslide.

but to your question, what do you consider acceptance?
I mean unless there was something illegal or improper about the vote count that could be contested in court, what are they to do? draft a resolution saying "we don't accept the president"?
they would simply do what they are doing now which is to shut down his radical agenda.

the gop will get the senate next time, so even if obama pulled some hail mary and got another term, he would be reduced to being even more of a bystander than he is now. he'd probably love it, nothing but vacations, golfing, and speeches while the GOP fixes the mess we're in.

they could try to impeach him over a blow job.

because, you know, that's important stuff.

and obama won't win unless you folks manage to completely **** up the economic hand you've been dealt. which i don't put beyond your apparently retarded political capabilities. this whole disaster you seem not just unable to avoid but actually yearn for is a gift.

he'd have no chance with a 10% unemployment rate absent your insistence to grab onto the responsibility for it.

Danzig 07-28-2011 11:57 AM

what radical agenda??

Calzone Lord 07-28-2011 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArlJim78 (Post 795367)
moot point, Obama will be flushed in a landslide.

If you had to put your money where your mouth is ... seeing that Obama is heavily favored to win re-election and all ... who would you bet against him with?

Mitt Romney: 5.3-to-1 odds

Rick Perry: 7.8-to-1 odds

Michele Bachman: 30-to-1 odds

Joe Biden: 30-to-1 odds

Tim Pawlenty: 34-to-1 odds

Jon Huntsman: 36-to-1 odds

Ron Paul: 45-to-1 odds

Sarah Palin: 47-to-1 odds

Newt Gingrich: 165-to-1 odds


Do any of those prices look better than the 3-to-5 on Obama?

Coach Pants 07-28-2011 12:29 PM

Rick Perry does.

slotdirt 07-28-2011 12:34 PM

I don't get the question. Why wouldn't they "accept" a second term? This isn't the Sudan.

Calzone Lord 07-28-2011 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 795467)
Rick Perry does.

Considering he has zero name recognition - at least around here - he seems to be where all of the money betting against Obama is going.

Coach Pants 07-28-2011 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 795470)
Considering he has zero name recognition - at least around here - he seems to be where all of the money betting against Obama is going.

He's got good hair and can put on the Holy Roller routine and brag about how well Texas is doing in spite of Obama.

People are scared and they want a tough talkin religious man.

bigrun 07-28-2011 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 795463)
If you had to put your money where your mouth is ... seeing that Obama is heavily favored to win re-election and all ... who would you bet against him with?

Mitt Romney: 5.3-to-1 odds

Rick Perry: 7.8-to-1 odds

Michele Bachman: 30-to-1 odds

Joe Biden: 30-to-1 odds

Tim Pawlenty: 34-to-1 odds

Jon Huntsman: 36-to-1 odds

Ron Paul: 45-to-1 odds

Sarah Palin: 47-to-1 odds

Newt Gingrich: 165-to-1 odds


Do any of those prices look better than the 3-to-5 on Obama?


Add Jeb Bush to the list...


"Jeb Bush may run for President. Bush Presidencies are like 'Caddyshack' movies. They should have stopped with one." –David Letterman

Riot 07-28-2011 02:27 PM

Considering the number of right-wing extremists that don't accept the President's first term as legimate, I doubt they will change for his second.

Quote:

Yet analysts who track extremist activity claim that the threat posed by right-wing extremists in the United States is on the rise and that federal law enforcement agencies may not be giving them enough resources or attention.

Right-wing extremist activity increased in 2008 and 2009 and has stayed persistent in 2010 and 2011, says former DHS domestic terror analyst Daryl Johnson, who founded a consulting firm that tracks extremist activity. He produced the 2009 report that created a political firestorm after it warned of a surge in right-wing extremism due to the election of the country's first black president and the economic recession.

Johnson says extremists have been active, with several shootings in the past several months. He says the militia movement "exploded" over the last two years and that groups have been "stockpiling weapons and plotting to kill government officials in Michigan and Alaska."

"A Norway incident could definitely happen here; the same things that played into the Norway suspect's mindset are here in this country," Johnson said. "If anything, extremists are much more capable of committing violent acts here due to their access to weapons and ammunition, which they don't have in Europe."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_911102.html

Riot 07-28-2011 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArlJim78 (Post 795367)
moot point, Obama will be flushed in a landslide.

but to your question, what do you consider acceptance?
I mean unless there was something illegal or improper about the vote count that could be contested in court, what are they to do? draft a resolution saying "we don't accept the president"?
they would simply do what they are doing now which is to shut down his radical agenda.
.

LOL - What "radical" agenda? The health care reform was left over from Nixon and the 1980's Republicans. Obama's financial polices are pure center-right Republican.

jms62 07-28-2011 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 795511)
LOL - What "radical" agenda? The health care reform was left over from Nixon and the 1980's Republicans. Obama's financial polices are pure center-right Republican.

Wait until he raises the debt ceiling next week without Congress and you'll see how people feel.. The smart folks will know that doing so saved the economy but the usual suspects will call for his head. Not a fan of his but he has been dealt 2-7 Offsuit is playing it.

Riot 07-28-2011 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 795479)
He's got good hair and can put on the Holy Roller routine and brag about how well Texas is doing in spite of Obama.

People are scared and they want a tough talkin religious man.

Perry is already trying to distance himself from his crazy preacher friends that will tank any candidacy. He's taken millions in government bail-out money to try and save his state. He's just a male Michelle Bachmann. Another loon with fluffy hair and a personal pipeline to a god.

Jeb Bush won't run. The GOP works via primogeniture. It's Mitt's time.

Riot 07-28-2011 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 795515)
Wait until he raises the debt ceiling next week without Congress and you'll see how people feel.. The smart folks will know that doing so saved the economy but the usual suspects will call for his head. Not a fan of his but he has been dealt 2-7 Offsuit is playing it.

Good point. Following the Constitution would enrage the Tea Party Pocket Constitutionalists. I've always thought Obama will do this Monday evening next, but now I'm not so sure. I'm changing my "final game" bet to be the House passing a clean, one-sentence bill Monday evening 11:30pm.

hi_im_god 07-28-2011 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 795463)
If you had to put your money where your mouth is ... seeing that Obama is heavily favored to win re-election and all ... who would you bet against him with?

Mitt Romney: 5.3-to-1 odds

Rick Perry: 7.8-to-1 odds

Michele Bachman: 30-to-1 odds

Joe Biden: 30-to-1 odds

Tim Pawlenty: 34-to-1 odds

Jon Huntsman: 36-to-1 odds

Ron Paul: 45-to-1 odds

Sarah Palin: 47-to-1 odds

Newt Gingrich: 165-to-1 odds


Do any of those prices look better than the 3-to-5 on Obama?

i'd take romney at 5-1. i think most of the party will coalesce around him as the "anyone but bachman" candidate after she wins iowa and s. carolina. he'll have enough money and organization to absorb those losses and fight on. and he's already running as the nominee. note his absence in the debt ceiling debate.

he'll be reasonably formidable. i'd put his fair odds at 7-5. it's going to be a much tougher general election than a lot of democrats think unless the house repubicans actually decide to fly an airplane into the economy.

witchdoctor 07-28-2011 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hi_im_god (Post 795544)
unless the house repubicans actually decide to fly an airplane into the economy.

3-5 that is going to happen:eek:

hi_im_god 08-04-2011 01:15 AM

bodog just posted odds on the 2012 presidential election.

dems -155

reps +125

that's why i think 5-1 + on romney would be a great bet.


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