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Seattleallstar 07-10-2011 03:48 PM

Sucker horses of 2011
 
You can add Coil and Twirling Candy to the growing list of them

Mucho Macho Man
Master of Hounds
Nehro

and pretty much 3 yr old who showed any ability to wow us so far

Seattleallstar 07-10-2011 03:52 PM

with that said id like to see Twirling Candy give it one more go at 10, maybe a training tweak here or there plus a change in tactics. I still love the horsey and dont want to give up on it.

Same goes for coil, but that was a tragically slow last quarter and still couldnt hold off that Drysdale horse. Plus all of Baffert's horses in Calder all failed to win over the weekend.

RolloTomasi 07-10-2011 04:15 PM

With a 2011 record of 3-2-1-0 (the loss being a short head defeat), Coil can hardly be called a sucker horse. Perhaps overrated after yesterday, but he certainly hasn't burned a bunch of money.

The list should have (but not limited to):

Setsuko
Captain Cherokee
Sidney's Candy
Drosselmeyer
The Usual QT
Jeranimo
Cozie Rosie
Haimish Hy
Supreme Summit
Harmonious
St. Trinians
Turning Top
Bind
Astrology
Haynesfield

Seattleallstar 07-10-2011 04:33 PM

dont forget apart and blames bro or sis

Alan07 07-10-2011 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seattleallstar (Post 790068)
with that said id like to see Twirling Candy give it one more go at 10, maybe a training tweak here or there plus a change in tactics. I still love the horsey and dont want to give up on it.

If TC couldn't get 10f yesterday, no way he'll get it at Del Mar.

RolloTomasi 07-10-2011 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar (Post 790086)
dont forget apart and blames bro or sis

Blame's sister, as far as I know, has won 2 of 3 races. Not sure if she's raced since her impressive allowance score on Kentucky Derby weekend.

You might be thinking of Bind.

Dahoss 07-10-2011 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 790096)
Blame's sister, as far as I know, has won 2 of 3 races. Not sure if she's raced since her impressive allowance score on Kentucky Derby weekend.

You might be thinking of Bind.

I think she was up the track in a stake about a month after that at Churchill.

RolloTomasi 07-10-2011 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 790098)
I think she was up the track in a stake about a month after that at Churchill.

That sucks (looked it up--5th at 4-5 in the Edgewood). Her allowance was like 15 Beyer points higher than the Bob Hess filly that won the La Troienne at the same distance 2 or 3 races later on the card. Hasn't worked since the loss.

By the way, I'm predicting Plum Pretty will be part of that sucker horse list by year's end.

Travis Stone 07-10-2011 06:15 PM

I don't think you can call an Oaks winner a sucker horse... Doesn't the label imply they never win but always take money?

Travis Stone 07-10-2011 06:17 PM

I guess you could say going forward.

trackrat59 07-10-2011 06:51 PM

Mucho Macho Man:rolleyes:

Nehro? He's not the sucker, I'm the sucker. Had I used him in the Derby I would have hit the Super..:zz:

lord007 07-10-2011 09:44 PM

MMM...for me

declansharbor 07-10-2011 10:02 PM

Chamberlain Bridge WAS a horse to bet against @ low odds earlier in the year.

Indian Charlie 07-10-2011 11:12 PM

Speaking of MMM, think what could have been with THAS in this topic.

Seattleallstar 07-10-2011 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Travis Stone (Post 790114)
I don't think you can call an Oaks winner a sucker horse... Doesn't the label imply they never win but always take money?

what do we call the winner of the Belmont?

RolloTomasi 07-10-2011 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar (Post 790150)
what do we call the winner of the Belmont?

I don't think anyone was fooled. If he shows up in the Haskell, I think he'll be a square price.

Stay Thirsty on the other hand...

Port Conway Lane 07-10-2011 11:57 PM

Gio Ponti has got to be the most notorious grade 1 money burner since he won the Arlington Million in 2009.

DaTruth 07-11-2011 12:34 AM

Dialed In should be added to the list.

tanner12oz 07-11-2011 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Port Conway Lane (Post 790154)
Gio Ponti has got to be the most notorious grade 1 money burner since he won the Arlington Million in 2009.

my first thought...this horse has been a short price all year and simply can't take it to the wire

Fulla Sheets 07-11-2011 09:42 AM

Joyful Victory should be added as well


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